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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Rich
date: 2006-12-29 20:43:52
subject: Re: AACS

From: "Rich" 

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   First, you quoted out of context leaving my reference to geo's =
question without the question needed to understand the response.  For =
those reading this, the relevant portion geo's question to provide =
context is "... if some HDDVD player had it's driver  hacked so that =
people could copy the HD content...".

   Some driver is needed for the physical drive just like you need a =
driver for a CD or DVD drive.  I wouldn't be surprised if these are =
generic for HD DVD just like they are for DVD and CD.  The drives I have =
on Vista machines, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, use the generic driver CDROM.SYS.  I =
don't know if this supports HD-DVD too.  Then you have the file system =
which is UDF for HD-DVD and DVD both.  This of course is generic.

   Of what you mention, WinDVD8, is what would have an AACS licence and =
be what the AACS org would revoke if appropriate.  Again in the context =
of geo's question, the driver is not relevant since it simply provides =
access to the the raw content while WinDVD8 provides access to the =
unencrypted content.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:4595ec15$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  ?? on the HDDVD player and a driver. If I attempt to connect  ( not =
that I'd want to as it's not worth the bother )  my Xbox 360 usb HDDVD =
drive to my computer I will surely need a driver - at least every review =
I've seen states that

  =
http://reviews.cnet.com/Microsoft_Xbox_360_HD_DVD_player/4505-6463_7-3213=
8037.html

  Microsoft didn't market the Xbox 360 HD DVD player to work with PCs, =
nor does it officially support PC connectivity, but there are reports on =
the Web that you can indeed hack the player to work with a PC. However, =
on top of a set of Windows drivers, you'll also need a copy of DVD =
playback software, such as WinDVD8, that supports playback of HD DVD =
discs.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:4595e9ee$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       =20
    As he notes, this is part of AACS and has nothing to do with =
Windows.  I suggest to visit http://www.aacsla.com/specifications/ which =
gutman can't be bothered to provde.  This is no surprise given the =
general lack of factual support throughout his rant. =20

    As for your specific question, why would an HDDVD player have a =
driver?  I don't see any need for one.

    Rich
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   First,
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leaving my reference to geo's question without the question needed to = understand=20
the response.  For those reading this, the relevant portion geo's
= question=20
to provide context is "... if = some HDDVD=20
player had it's driver  hacked so that people could copy the HD=20
content...".
 
   Some
driver is needed for =
the physical=20
drive just like you need a driver for a CD or DVD drive. 
I = wouldn't=20
be surprised if these are generic for HD DVD just like they are for DVD = and=20
CD.  The drives I have on Vista machines, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, use the
= generic=20
driver CDROM.SYS.  I don't know if this supports HD-DVD
too.  = Then you=20
have the file system which is UDF for HD-DVD and DVD both.  This
of = course=20
is generic.
 
   Of what
you mention, =
WinDVD8, is what=20
would have an AACS licence and be what the AACS org would revoke if=20
appropriate.  Again in the context of geo's question, the driver
is = not=20
relevant since it simply provides access to the the raw content while = WinDVD8=20
provides access to the unencrypted content.
 
Rich
 
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:4595ec15$1{at}w3.nls.net... ?? on the HDDVD player and a = driver. If I=20 attempt to connect ( not that I'd want to as it's not worth the = bother=20 ) my Xbox 360 usb HDDVD drive to my computer I will surely need = a driver=20 - at least every review I've seen states that http://reviews.cnet.com/Microsoft_Xbox_360_HD_DVD_player/4505-646= 3_7-32138037.html">http://reviews.cnet.com/Microsoft_Xbox_360_HD_DVD_play= er/4505-6463_7-32138037.html Microsoft didn't market the Xbox 360 HD DVD player to work = with PCs,=20 nor does it officially support PC connectivity, but there are ;=">http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9663647-1.html?tag=3Dtxt">;= reports=20 on the Web that you can indeed hack the player to work with a PC. = However, on=20 top of a set of Windows drivers, you'll also need a copy of DVD = playback=20 software, such as WinDVD8, that supports playback of HD DVD = discs.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4595e9ee$1{at}w3.nls.net... As he notes, this is part of AACS = and has=20 nothing to do with Windows. I suggest to visit http://www.aacsla.com/spec" target="new">http://www.aacsla.com/spec=">http://www.aacsla.com/specifications/">http://www.aacsla.com/spec= ifications/ which=20 gutman can't be bothered to provde. This is no surprise given = the=20 general lack of factual support throughout his rant. = As for your specific question, why = would an=20 HDDVD player have a driver? I don't see any need for = one. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C72B8A.0D26DB40-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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