From: John Tserkezis 
Reply-To: Fidonet AVtech Echo 

Bob Lawrence wrote:

>  Ahh... but then we use *generic* corners, generic intersections,
> situations that remind us of other things we have already experienced.
> That's why a Learner does it so tough. I can still remember the first
> time I went out at night in the rain. I could not see a thing! I had
> to pull over and let my brother drive me home. Obviously, things
> haven't changed, I *still* can't see a thing, but now I know where to
> look, and what to expect.

  This is demonstratable with the F1 guys during a wet race.  You don't get 
much in-car views during those races, because you only really see white haze, 
and nothing else.

  Those guys hone in on subtle little clues on the side of the road (where they 
can see) and make corrections on that.  Everything else is based on dead 
reconing navigation.

  They say a typical F1 driver can "imagine" driving around the
track in their 
minds, with a stopwatch in their hand clicking every time they cross the 
start-stop line.  Apparently, each 'imaginary' lap is the same as all the 
others, to within a second or so.

>  No... the cops now patrol Majors Bay Road, Cabarita Road, and the
> run up to Broughton Street. They leave Concord Road to the camera.
> It's a joke, now. You come off the bridge headign south and everyone
> does 75K, you come over the hill to the traffic lights, everyoen drops
> to 50K to be on the safe side, past the cameras, the up the hill and
> everyone speeds up to 70K through the shopping centre, past the
> primary school, pity about the kids crossing the road...

>  You don't even have to know it's there now - everyone around you
> suddenly slows to 50K. If you're on a strange road and that happens,
> slow down!

  Ah, so the fixed speed camera saved that many lives that they are now 
targeting back streets, which is where everyone REALLY gets killed right?

>  I was put there for the downhill run past the shopping centre, nice
> open safe road... and it really worked, at first. Got *heaps* of
> speeding fines. Now I wonder if they've even got a camera in there...

  Roumoured to have them rotated around, but not sure, I haven't had a close 
look at when the guys are working on them to notice if they are putting it in, 
or taking it out.

  The one on parramatta road auburn apparently is the biggest money maker in 
the country.  They must be saving counless lives.   It's in the middle of an 
industrial area.

>>Bad driver, probably panicked. But the fuckwit cops put it down
>>to speed. Durr... *every* crash is caused by speed.

> JT> I love the "there's no such thing as safe speeding" cry. True,
> JT> the only safe speed is 0. You can't hit anything if you're not
> JT> moving.

>  Unless a truck runs up your arse.

  Not if the truck's speed is zero.  At any speeds above zero, all bets are off.

>  When I got my licence there was no P, and no 100K limit on the
> highway, either.

  Isn't that 80Km/h, or is that for Ls?

> JT> but while on the bike P's, I remember "losing" my P plate on
> JT> the freeway, (no really, I DID loose it on the freeway, I just
> JT> didn't notice till four months later when I was fully licenced
> JT> and tried to remove the plate). Anyway, it was amazing that
> JT> overnight, everyone stops aiming for you, and actually treats
> JT> you like every other road user, more or less indifferent. 

>  Does it? I never treat P plates any differently, expect perhaps I
> don't monster them (in case they do something unexpected).

  That's just you Bob, one driver doesn't make a squat of difference.

  I can pass 100+ cars in a typical ride to work.  You get to
"meet" all sorts.

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