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echo: locsysop
to: Bill Grimsley
from: Rod Speed
date: 1995-08-15 09:00:16
subject: warp doing stange things

RS> One thing I forgot to mention is that its theoretically possible
RS> for it to arrive at his BBS, but he doenst get to see the file
RS> itself, coz the sysop doesnt notice the file attach.

BG> Depends on his setup, but most sysops configure their ROUTE.CFG to pass
BG> on file-attaches to their points off the same system, like Dave for example

I dont believe most do, or most can. Thats only available for points,
most users you are likely to want to crashmail/file attach a file to
arent points. There is in theory that capability with a very few QWK
doors, but its not necessarily as easy to automate even those.

BG> Point taken though.

It basically does no harm to include that comment, so I do regardless.

RS> So far its never failed once, not even had any BBS
RS> refuse the crashmail because I'm not nodelisted.

BG> Can't speak for any of the other mailers, but Binkley has to be
BG> specifically configured NOT to accept inbound files if that's what
BG> they want.  Whilst I can see the need to restrict the sizes of freq
BG> DLs, to limit the size of incoming files could be dangerous IMO. 

I think those that would do it would be those paranoid about what
might be sent, not the size. Some people can be remarkably anal.

BG> Is it just me, or is the world really full of complete fuckwits?

RS> There certainly are plenty out there. Just look at that Richard
RS> Heppell fellow. Tho hopefully most arent quite that bad |-)

BG> What's his story anyway?  Is he mentally disabled or what?

He is certainly disabled, deaf from memory. One of the weirdest
people in a mental sense that I've mad much opportunity to perve
at tho. He actually works for the Tax Dept would you believe ?

BG> I can't believe that people don't just tell him to fuck
BG> off (especially Todd in the Maestro echo), or at the very
BG> least simply ignore him, and hope he'll just go away.

I think it takes some people some time to realise quite how weird he is.
And then some appear to be fascinated by how weird his brain works. It can
be hard to believe he really can be that fucked in the head. He is tho.

BG> Dunno what his problem is, but having now spoken with
BG> several people who've actually met him, the general
BG> feeling is that he's an ignorant prick, and completely
BG> unsuited to the authority he holds with the club's four BBSs.

RS> Yeah, I've heard stuff along those lines, particularly
RS> as far as the BRISBUG or whatever its called is concerned.

BG> Absolutely, and I believe the main reason that he still runs
BG> those four boards is that nobody else is prepared to do it.
BG> RTL and I are not the only people to have complained to the
BG> club about his attitude, but as usual, nothing is done about it

Yeah, must be a hell of a problem is no one else is prepared to do it.

BG> (and I also suspect that they tell him exactly who has complained).

Quite likely. I dunno anything about the others at all.

RS> Presumably the usual problem with some people just needing to flaunt
RS> their power to show what big people they are, when in fact all it does
RS> is demonstrate very graphically what their psychological problems are.

BG> Yep, that's spot on.  He's a strange fellow, and as you may know,
BG> lives alone in a dingy little house with (at last count) 7 cats. 

Doesnt surprise me, and I've heard that before from somewhere.

BG> They say that cats have nine lives, which
BG> makes up for Marwick not even having one, IMO...

Charming |-)

RS> Trevs got similar problems, tho not quite so bad.

BG> I'm sure there are others too, but apart from Marwick, I've just
BG> not yet come across any (although Dean Mackin comes pretty close).

Some of those sitting the higher reaches of the *C tree can be pretty bad.

BG> The really annoying thing about Marwick is that if he perceives
BG> that I've done the wrong thing (even unintentionally), he has
BG> the power to cut all of my email routing through his board, and
BG> given that he's already done it once before, I don't doubt that
BG> he'd do so again with even the slightest provocation.

RS> Yes, its a real problem. You do actually have some legal recourse
RS> on natural justice grounds, but thats usually not cheap to exercise
RS> and in this particular case you wouldnt win anyway coz there is a
RS> pretty explicit ban on UUCODE in routed netmail in Policy4.

BG> Yeah, especially now that he's actually warned me
BG> not to do it again, on pain of instant disconnection.

Yep, thats one of the important thing you have to do to protect yourself.

BG> If he does that, I'm basically fucked legally.

True.

RS> But on something else, say the use of norty words in netmail,
RS> you could shaft him comprehensively if you didnt mind the cost
RS> of doing it when the ABC and SBS etc have those words too.

BG> Yep, as long as his reason for cutting me off wasn't
BG> specifically mentioned in P4, he'd be in deep shit (for
BG> example, if he was reading these messages and cut me off out
BG> of sheer spite).  I'd take him to the fucking cleaners if he did.

BG> Maybe it's time for an "accidental" x-post after all...  :)

Why do I get this mental image of bridges in flames ? |-)

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