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to: Geo.
from: Rich
date: 2006-12-27 15:33:00
subject: Re: File/Edit/View

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   When you say "work the way you work" you sound like you are really =
saying "work the way you are accustomed regardless of potential =
improvements".  I can understand if you claim that you are more = comfortable
when there are no changes.  That is not an argument that no = change is good.

   In the case of IE7 its not as if the menus are gone.  They were just =
replaced with Home, Print, Page, Tools, and Help and moved to make more = space
for the content.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:4592e18e{at}w3.nls.net...
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4591f009$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>   You could have simply acknowlged that it is not difficult to find =

  >> popular applications without File/Edit/View.

  I thought I did when I acknowledged media player? But you still get my =
point=20
  that pretty much all apps have file/edit/view menu structure?

  >>   It would appear that many computer users are more flexible than =
you.

  Ha, now you sound like Kai from Kai's power tools, he said almost =
those=20
  exact word to me when I told him what I thought of his clever but =
annoying=20
  user interface.

  I believe the computer should work the way I work, not the other way =
around.=20
  People shouldn't have to learn to use a different user interface for =
each=20
  application, what made windows nice was that all the applications got=20
  similar and much easier to use compared to dos days. Menu structure=20
  standardized, apps shared device drivers, things all started working =
in the=20
  same way so you didn't have to relearn to use a computer every time =
you=20
  bought a new piece of software.

  MS has lost sight of that. You've gone and hired a bunch of people who =

  didn't use computers back when windows was becoming more and more =
popular so=20
  they don't know why things are the way they are. I'll bet your =
youngest=20
  programming teams work on IE and Media player huh?

  Geo.=20

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   When you
say "work the way =
you work"=20
you sound like you are really saying "work the way you are accustomed =
regardless=20
of potential improvements".  I can understand if you claim that you =
are=20
more comfortable when there are no changes.  That is not an = argument
that=20
no change is good.
 
   In the case of =
IE7 its not as if=20
the menus are gone.  They were just replaced with Home, Print, = Page,
Tools,=20
and Help and moved to make more space for the content.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:4592e18e{at}w3.nls.net..."R=
ich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:4591f009$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>>  =20
  You could have simply acknowlged that it is not difficult to find =
>>=20
  popular applications without File/Edit/View.I thought I did =
when I=20
  acknowledged media player? But you still get my point that pretty =
much all=20
  apps have file/edit/view menu
structure?>>   =
It would=20
  appear that many computer users are more flexible than
you.Ha, =
now you=20
  sound like Kai from Kai's power tools, he said almost those exact =
word to=20
  me when I told him what I thought of his clever but annoying user=20
  interface.I believe the computer should work the way I work, =
not the=20
  other way around. People shouldn't have to learn to use a =
different user=20
  interface for each application, what made windows nice was that =
all the=20
  applications got similar and much easier to use compared to dos =
days. Menu=20
  structure standardized, apps shared device drivers, things all =
started=20
  working in the same way so you didn't have to relearn to use a =
computer=20
  every time you bought a new piece of
software.MS has lost =
sight of=20
  that. You've gone and hired a bunch of people who didn't use =
computers=20
  back when windows was becoming more and more popular so they don't =
know=20
  why things are the way they are. I'll bet your youngest =
programming teams=20
  work on IE and Media player huh?Geo. =


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