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to: Leonard Erickson
from: Phil Marlowe
date: 2003-07-06 12:42:54
subject: EXPLODING CD PRICES

Leonard Erickson wrote:
 
-------exploding CD prices
 
> -=> Quoting Roy J. Tellason to Phil Marlowe <=-
 
> RJT> Phil Marlowe wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:
 
 LE> Basicly, they want you to have to pay for every use.
 
 RJT> Yeah, well. They can keep at it all they like
 RJT> with these silly attempts, and if they even come
 RJT> close to implementing something that starts to
 RJT> look like it'll work there will be ways around it
 RJT> all over the 'net, in real short order.
 
> And, until and unless DNCA and "son of DMCA"
> (which hasn't passed *yet*) get thrown out,
 
 ??
 
 What's DNCA? What do you mean by 'passed *yet*'
 or 'thrown out'? Some legislation?
 
> they'll be able to sue you for having those up on
> your web site. Also, they are trying (and
> succeeding, all too often) to get the hardware
> required to not *allow* playing such games.
 
 This was along the lines of what I was referring
 to in a message to Roy when I said manufacturers
 were required to install some chip or mechanism on
 VCRs so you cannot use 2 VCRs to dub video tapes.
 
 And this is what I don't understand: How they go
 about getting the laws passed to accomplish this
 stuff.
 
> That's why I want to no part of MS's planned
> successor to XP (or even XP for that matter).
 
> I'm thinking about a laptop, but it'll have to be
> one that I can get from the factory with Linux
> rather than XP!!
 
 RJT> Things are changing, thanks to the technology
 RJT> we all love, and the folks who run record
 RJT> companies and similar outfits are gonna have to
 RJT> learn how to deal with it.
 
> Yeah, but their preferred method of "dealinhg with
> it" is to get laws passed that take away "fair
> use" rights.
 
 Exactly.
 
 Do you know how they go about it? What are
 the media organizations involved? I haven't
 followed any of  this in years.
 
 RJT> Seen any legislation supporting the "rights"
 RJT> of buggy-whip makers lately?
 
> Nope, but there's lots and lots trying to make it
> illegal to copy stuff. Or to access it in ways
> that the media folks don't like.
 
 What gets me is there are actual police raids to
 stop this, when police departments are short handed
 and don't have enough men to deal with real crime.
 
> Heck, if they had their way, it'd be illegal to
> sell used CDs and DVDs!
 
 They're probably working on that too.
 
 

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