BA> Replying to a message of Carol Shenkenberger to bob klahn:

 bk>>>  I was wondering, because I have heard a lot of complaints about
 bk>>>  all the assistance cuban imigrants got, but poor americans got
 bk>>>  sink or swim. I didn't know it was true until now.

 CS>> It was a 'sink or swim' time for all then.  Welfare abuse was nominal
 CS>> because  it wasnt really available that same way til around 1970 and
 CS>> later right?                                        xxcarol

 BA> A bit before that, I think.  The feds jumped into the
 BA> welfare business big time in the 1960s, the stated reason
 BA> was because the various states had different programs,
 BA> different levels of benefits and different eligibility

 The differences remained after the Feds jumped in. The real
 reason was a combination of actual starvation in places like
 appalicia, and the desire to build up a jobs and training
 program to put poor americans in a position to move up.

 The failure was in the jobs and training portion was killed by
 conservative opponents, leaving just the welfare portion.

 BA> rules. California, for instance, was quite generous WRT
 BA> welfare; I can remember my parents griping - in the late
 BA> 1950s - about people living on welfare for two and three
 BA> generations, and about people moving to California solely
 BA> to get in on the welfare programs.  That was not quite half
 BA> a century ago and the problem has only become worse since
 BA> then.

 Mostly because the federal programs were matching state
 programs. The resulst was, if a state had a weak program, the
 feds contributed less, so the benefits were worse.

 Back then states had residency requirements, until the supreme
 court ruled the states could not discriminate against any
 American on a federally funded program.


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