Hello Vladimir,

I don't understand this reposting.

In the text below I say you have advocates here, but fail to see why you
see that as a reason to make that support a "basis" for the call
for Z2 elections.

We have no *say* here about the actual process of Z2 matters, nor should it
be considered that it is being implied or demanded.

Speaking for *myself* only, I can say you have support on the -moral-
level, but that carries no weight in the process other than me being able
to speak my oppinion on it... as to the two former R50 nodes (as noted in
the quote below), they have 24/7 bink mailers that you should be able to
easily contact.  I am under the impression that you are familiar with
Sergey (may be wrong though) as at the mention of his name way back when I
posted what you quote below your reply using his name
implied some sort of familiarity. Please, by all means, contact him
personaly and solicit what extra support you can get... I can't speak for
him.

The "I would say" you have advocates here part again was my
oppinion, the "would" part implied oly the venture of a guess
based on backgrounds... I would still say you have the support, but it is
up to you to solicit that support, and it is up to any others in R50 to
actually call for the election and changes.

Moral support and expression of oppinions can be a strong thing presented
in the right venue for a cause, but it cannot be a basis for the
call to arms.

If I misunderstood your meaning by the repost (and I did, because I saw no
notes as to the reason for it) please clarify as I'd like to know what was
intended by it.

Phil


 VD> =================================
 VD> =========================================
 VD> * Forwarded by Vladimir Donskoy (2:5020/2992) from area : IC
 VD> * From : Vladimir Donskoy, 2:5020/2992 (05 май 06 11:22)
 VD> * To   : Philip Lozier, 1:267/169
 VD> * Subj : Re: Situation on R2:50
 VD> =================================
 VD> =========================================
 VD> Hi Philip!

 VD> Thursday May 04 2006, Philip Lozier wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 VD>>>  1:267/69  Andrew Dolidov
 VD>>>  1:267/250 Sergey Zubkov

 PL>>>> Both are fine gentlmen from the discussions I've had with them...
 PL>>>> educated
 PL>>>> in presentation... fluent in english so there is no
 PL>>>> misunderstanding... and because of my own background
(not Russian,
 PL>>>> but Ukrainian on my mothers side), I would have to say
that you -DO-
 PL>>>> have advocates here.

 VD>>> But Sergey have "dyndns" IP-address... Can he
receive cals from us?
 VD>>> What reliability of they stations?

 PL>> Both guys run BinkP systems 24/7, and both are very stable with up time,
 PL>> so there is no reason you souldn;t be able to reach them.

 VD> OK, if they are agree, mail to IC for assign election Z2C.

 VD> Malkolm, if you read this echo, can you start of this elections?

 VD> Regards, Vladimir Donskoy

 VD> -+- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20060326
 VD>  + Origin: DVB Station (2:5020/2992)
 VD> =================================
 VD> =========================================

 VD>                           Hello Malcolm!

 VD> Can you start of this elections?

 VD> Regards, Vladimir Donskoy.

 VD> --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20060326

--- FMail/Win32 1.60
Netwo (1:267/169)