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to: Ross Cassell
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2007-06-22 16:18:00
subject: Nifong

RC>>> You are eerily silent on this Democrat Dufus..

 I don't know of anyone belonging to a party where the party
 designation is democrat. I do know of democrats plural, or
 democratic as a descriptive in the singular. When you want to
 talk about one of those I might know what you are talking about.

 BK>>  So were you.

 RC> I was waiting on you and your boytoy Sauer to speak up with
 RC> indignance.

 Why? Do you need a leader?

 RC>>> Since you are the Great White Apologist for those things
 RC>>> racial, lets examine this case.

 BK>>  Your failure is that you have nothing positive to say on racial
 BK>>  issues. Nothing positive about black people.

 RC> I have plenty of positive things to say about human beings,
 RC> I dont have much time to waste on those whom want to call
 RC> attention and sympathies to themselves only because their
 RC> skin is a certain color.

 IOW, you are ignorant of the realities of the real world.

 RC>>> Duke University, a college that has well to do spoiled
 RC>>> rotten rich white boys attend.

 BK>>  So, you have them convicted already.

 RC> No, I painted a scenario for you, that you liberals love to
 RC> target.

 it's your scenario. And you called attention to the spoiled ones
 being white.

 RC>>> blemished, lives wrecked, families taken to the breaking
 RC>>> points.

 BK>>  The only life wrecked was Nifong's.

 RC> Sharpton, Jackson whom both should be drowned in battery
 RC> acid for the racial and poverty pimps that they are, came

 Nasty little boy, aren't you? Emus was exploiting race and
 ethnicity for profit far more, and more successfully, then the
 two of them combined.

 RC> down along with the media, all being spoonfed this shit
 RC> from Nifong and smeared these boys reputations and lives.

 As happened to the black men I listed, and you did not go to the
 barracades for.

 RC> These boys will always have this case associated with them.

 Until their names are forgotten, which will be in two weeks
 among everyone except those immediately involved.

 RC> Do you think they raped the stripper?

 Have no idea, the evidence is they didn't, and it's very strong
 for some. So, since I believe in DNA evidence I conclude they
 did not. Just as you must conclude Peterson did not rape and
 murder that woman.

 Do you think the men imprisoned as the central park jogger
 rapists actually raped the jogger?

 Do you think Peterson raped and murdered the woman he spent 17
 years in prison for the crimes that DNA evidence proved he was
 not the one?

 RC>>> You said little about it since, because it involved a
 RC>>> Democrat DA, who was trying to impress his african american
 RC>>> constituency by try to punish "whitey".

 BK>>  Your telepathic powers have failed you. I didn't say little
 BK>>  about it, said nothing about it recently because it hasn't been
 BK>>  a topic of discussion.

 RC> Baloney, even you have the power to bring up a topic.

 So what? The power to bring up a topic hardly equates to the
 responsibility to bring up a topic.

 You didn't bring up Peterson spending 17 years in prison for a
 crime he didn't commit. Or should I leave open the possibility
 that you share the DA's desire to retry him, inspite of clear
 DNA evidence showing it was someone else?

 RC>>> If this was a case about a GOP DA who prosecuted 3 african
 RC>>> americans in the same manner, you would have been foaming
 RC>>> at the mouth.

 BK>>  And you would be defending him, so what?

 RC> So you are defending Nifong?

 So you are inventing straw men? And false accusations?

 RC>>> Had the stripper been white or the boys black, he wouldnt
 RC>>> have took this case,

 BK>>  And you would have been all over him, even though the boys were
 BK>>  innocent.

 RC> Actually I wouldnt since it would have been a non-issue to
 RC> have gotten the media atention.

 So, it's media attention, not the injustice, that draws your
 wrath. So, all those black men freed from prison and from death
 row by DNA evidence don't matter because they were not in the
 media focus?

 RC> Did you know that this stripper was sure to not accuse the
 RC> only african american member of that team?

 Was sure not to? I thought you weren't into calling attention on
 the basis of skin color. I was aware of that, right wing
 columnists made a point of bringing it out.

 RC> Why do we call black people african american, majority of

 Why do we have an Irish American festival?
 Why do we have a Polish American festival?
 Why do we have a German American festival?
 Why do we have a Greek American festival?

 Could it be because those people identify themselves as
 Irish-American/Polish-American/German-American/Greek-American?

 RC> the black population has never been to africa and is as far
 RC> removed from africa as you and I are from europe?

 I am about 100 years removed from Ireland, and 100 to 300 years
 removed from Germany, depending on which side of the family you
 count. Yet I could still get Irish citizenship based on my
 immigrant ancestors.

 And why do you even bring up the subject? What do you want them
 called? Black? I use that term most of the time, but I use
 African American to distinguish them from Indian or Australian
 Aboriginee blacks. So big deal, don't worry about it.

 RC>>> however if the boys had been black, he actually may have
 RC>>> seen to it no charges would have been brought.

 The important part you deleted.
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 I don't recall you ranting about the Central Park rapists
 spending years in prison, then being proven innocent.

 I don't recall you be outraged when Larry Peterson spent 17
 years in prison, for rape and murder, and the prosecutor vowed
 to retry him when the appeals court threw out the conviction
 when:

  The hair sample supposedly from Peterson geneticall matched the
  victim.

 The fingernail clippings supposedly matched against scratches on
 Peterson's arms turned out to have genetic material that didn't
 match his.

 The semen samples, and all other genetic samples, matched each
 other and did not match Peterson.

 Where was your outrage at the prosecutor for having him
 rearrested and planing to retry him?

 Was it because Peterson is black?

 Oh, and he has to sue to get compensation. He's 56 years old
 now, where is he going to find a job? Talk about a life wrecked.

 Answer that before you bother me with your complaints.

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 RC>>> This is a good example why no law enforcement office should
 RC>>> ever be an elected one.

 BK>>  Bunch of cops shoot an unarmed man in NYC. Does that mean cops
 BK>>  should be elected?

 RC> I am talking about District Attorneys, Judges and County
 RC> sheriffs et al, they shouldnt be elected positions.

 And I am saying your conclusion may or may not be correct, but
 it is a non-sequitor as regards your reasons.

 RC> The reason why Nifong did what he did was he was standing
 RC> for election in 2006, he was initially appointed by the

 So? You think that hasn't been covered a dozen times over?
 Thomas Sowell's column appears in the local paper. I read it
 religiously.

 ...

 RC> that simple, he let his job get beholden to politics, in
 RC> this case for his own self interest, these positions should
 RC> be free from that.

 And do you think appointed positions are not beholden to
 politics? Oh you are naive.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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