Hello Roy.

08 May 06 14:14, you wrote to me:

 DS>>>   Interesting -- here in USA calls from a land line to a cell
 DS>>> phone only cost the cell phone.

 MvdV>> Yes I know. In the US the cell phone owner pays for the "air
 MvdV>> time". In Europe this is different. I'd have thought this would
 MvdV>> be widely known by now as it has been discussed many times over
 MvdV>> in Fido. Ah well, so much for assumptions of "widely
known"....

 RW> As is the assumption that we pay for incoming calls.

Did I write "all"?

 RW>  We don't, or at least I don't, since leaving Verizon, two years ago.

Good for you.

 RW> As you say below, I also leave my cell phone on all the time. However,
 RW> Cingular told me to turn it off periodically. This has something to do
 RW> with cell phone software updates by the provider

That would make me very suspicious. I dont like software that can be
"upgraded" withoit me being in control of the process. I don't
need a virus in my cell phone.

 RW> If you look at my bill, Cingular in this case, there is never a charge
 RW> for incoming calls. BTW, all long distance and roaming calls are also
 RW> free. This includes roaming time in Mexico, Puerto Rico, Hawaii and
 RW> Alaska.

Then you must pay a monthly fee.

 RW>  I would assume the same, if I'm within roaming range of a US
 RW> based cell, while in Canada.

Being in range may not be enough. You may have to manually lock on that
cell. If not it may lock on the stronger signal of a Canadian cell. That
may even happen when you are on the US side of the border.

Over here we have to lock onto the home provider when roaming near the
Begian or German  border to avoid the phone locking onto a german or
Belgian provider and be charged with outrageous international roaming fees.

Michiel

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