Hi, Roy.

-=> ROY J. TELLASON wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=-

 JH> In the earlier thread, BIR the main suggestion was to buy the torx
 JH> bit with the little hole in the tip to receive the pin.

 RJT> These days I would probably be so inclined,  particularly as they seem
 RJT> to be more available than they used to be.  I could be mistaken,  but I
 RJT> think I even recall seeing them at Sears.

See my msg to Phil Marlowe.  Sears may not have them any more.

 JH> In some of the recent replies, folks have suggested some more
 JH> alternatives. BIR, I've had a bit of success sometimes with taking
 JH> a center punch and knocking the top of that pin down far enough
 JH> that a standard Torx bit would fit down in there far enough to
 JH> catch.

I think I meant to say "pin punch" there, but no telling what I actually
used ;-), and it may not have worked on all of them.

 RJT> Heh.  Red hot?  I don't think I've ever gone quite that far...

I wasn't happy with myself.

 RJT> Worst experience I had with drilling was in my car.  I noticed a little
 RJT> leak around the thermostat area,  so I figured I'd put a new gasket on
 RJT> there.  The one bolt came out easy enough,  but the other one snapped
 RJT> off.  Dumb design, instead of just having them poke into the intake
 RJT> they had it in a little pocket,  where anything that got to the screw
 RJT> was gonna stay there.  So I drilled into the middle of the bolt,  stuck
 RJT> an ez-out in there,  and snapped *that* off.  Talk about some hard
 RJT> material?  I got carbide bits,  all sorts of stuff,  and nothing I
 RJT> tried would work to get that thing outta there.  I ended up going to a
 RJT> junkyard and getting another intake manifold,  and putting that on
 RJT> there.

OUCH!  I _hate_ it when my 30-minute "projects" turn into a long weekend
of hard work.

 RJT> Next time I'll use a bigger one.  :-)

I guess there is some magic formula of what size of ez-out to use, and
you used one a bit too small?

 RJT> Just did an oil change on that car,  we're taking a little bit of a
 RJT> trip this weekend.  Oh,  and "that van" was over here
not too long ago,
 RJT>  I somehow got talked into doing brakes on it.  Too bad I let people
 RJT> know I knew how to do that...  Don't like doing it,  don't care to do
 RJT> it any more!

You don't like it because it is such a chore, or because of the safety
issues?

 RJT> Remember that van?

The one where you didn't call before you left the hotel, but called
after you got to Orlando, and someone had left window(s) open the
evening before and we had a big afternoon/evening thunderstorm, and
rainwater got into the headlight relay, or somewhere else it shouldn't
have been, and the headlights wouldn't turn off, and while you were
waiting for me to come down from Longwood to College Park and while we
sat there in the diner and had a cup or two of coffee, and then we went
out and found the battery was dead, and we had to go to Discount Auto
Parts for you to get a set of jumper cables, and we finally jump-started
it? And when we finally got to MCF where I volunteer, Nancy stayed out
in the parking lot in the van as it idled trying to recharge the
battery?

That the one?  Hee. Nope, I don't hardly remember that one.  [;-D.
I don't think I'd want to work on that sucker either - - it seemed to be
demon-possessed, or something.

I've had a few run-ins with rain-caused electrical progblems also.  I
smoke in the car, and often leave the windows open a bit when I park it,
to let it air out.  Sometimes a rain will catch me, and I think I now
have at least one of the window switches which won't work.  Lucky it is
on the passenger side, and the switch on driver side will open and close
it.  A couple of cars ago, I had an Oldsmobile, and its problem was that
the driver side window switch would intermittently decide to not work,
invariably with the window in the down position.

 - - -  JimH.







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