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to: Geo.
from: Rich
date: 2003-06-26 23:35:44
subject: Re: Answer me this please?

From: "Rich" 

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   Since we never discussed access permissions I'll ignore the off topic =
mention of that.

   The shell extension associated with the temporary internet files =
folder un-obfuscated the intentionally obfuscated physical view and =
presents information not available from the file system like the URL =
being cached and the cache expiration time.  I can keep repeating this =
but it would help if you read what I wrote before you replied.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3efb80e7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  I still don't understand. If I ask to see something I'm not allowed to =
see
  then I should get a "you aren't allowed" message and if I am allowed =
to see
  it then I should see it. Why would explorer "obfuscate" my view of my
  system, what kind of reasoning would lead to a behavior like that? =
This is
  what I don't understand.

  Geo. (I wasn't really directing the question at you, I was just asking =
a
  question that needs asking)

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ef92524$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     This directory has a custom viewer that shows a logical view of the
  Internet cache and cookies instead of the intentionally obfuscated =
physical
  view.  It also adds information not stored with each file like the URL
  cached by that file and the cache expiration time.

     In Windows Server 2003 viewing another user's cache does not =
display the
  logical view.  In Windows 2000 I'm pretty sure it does.  I don't know =
about
  Windows XP.

     In any event, Mike's claims were bogus though it is not clear if =
this is
  due to his disregard for honesty or accuracy.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3ef8deab{at}w3.nls.net...
    Why would explorer show you someplace different from what you asked =
to
  see?

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ef8bd8d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       That's particularly strange since cookies are not stored in that
    location.  Now if you tried looking with Explorer at that location =
for
    another account, you would see the contents of the temporary =
Internet
  files
    and cookies for your own account.

    Rich

      "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
    news:u6eefv8ulhlelnrsb37f5rl11afjjmcsqb{at}4ax.com...

      I can't answer your question, but when I went looking on my box =
(W2K
  SP2)
      I found a bunch of cookies in the Local Settings|Temporary =
Internet
  Files
      folder of the Administrator.  That's odd because I do not log in =
as
      Administrator on this box.

        /m


      On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:29:08 -0500, "Glenn Meadows"
  
      wrote:

      >Why would the Local Settings/Temp folder of the =
Administrator.
    have
      >24,575 folders in it, taking up 1.67gb of space?
      >
      >What creates items in that location?  I found copies of old =
Win95_X.cab
      >files scattered throughout.  Kept wondering where all my free =
space on
  C
    was
      >going, as it was creeping down everyday, and the log files were =
NOT
    filling
      >it up.
      >
      >How did I find it?  Mapped C of the server to my laptop, and ran =
Norton
      >Utilities System Info against it, and used the DRIVE tab to LOOK =
at
  what
    was
      >taking up space on the drive.
      >
      >24,575 folders, taking up 1.67 gb of space.



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   Since we
never discussed =
access=20
permissions I'll ignore the off topic mention of that.
 
   The shell
extension =
associated with=20
the temporary internet files folder un-obfuscated the intentionally = obfuscated=20
physical view and presents information not available from the file = system like=20
the URL being cached and the cache expiration time.  I can keep =
repeating=20
this but it would help if you read what I wrote before you =
replied.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:3efb80e7$1{at}w3.nls.net...I=20
  still don't understand. If I ask to see something I'm not allowed to=20
  seethen I should get a "you aren't allowed" message
and if I am =
allowed to=20
  seeit then I should see it. Why would explorer
"obfuscate" my view =
of=20
  mysystem, what kind of reasoning would lead to a behavior like =
that? This=20
  iswhat I don't understand.Geo. (I wasn't
really directing =
the=20
  question at you, I was just asking aquestion that needs=20
  asking)"Rich" <{at}> wrote in
message news:3ef92524$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  This directory has a custom viewer that shows a logical view of=20
  theInternet cache and cookies instead of the intentionally =
obfuscated=20
  physicalview.  It also adds information not stored with each =
file=20
  like the URLcached by that file and the cache expiration=20
  time.   In Windows Server 2003
viewing another =
user's cache=20
  does not display thelogical view.  In Windows 2000 I'm pretty =
sure it=20
  does.  I don't know aboutWindows
XP.   In =
any=20
  event, Mike's claims were bogus though it is not clear if this =
isdue to=20
  his disregard for honesty or
accuracy.Rich  =
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:3ef8deab{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; Why=20
  would explorer show you someplace different from what you asked=20
  tosee? 
Geo.  "Rich" <{at}> wrote
in =
message=20
  news:3ef8bd8d$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
    =20
  That's particularly strange since cookies are not stored in =
that =20
  location.  Now if you tried looking with Explorer at that =
location=20
  for  another account, you would see the contents of the =
temporary=20
  Internetfiles  and cookies for your own =
account. =20
  Rich    "Mike
'/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
wrote in=20
  message  news:u6eefv8ulhl=
elnrsb37f5rl11afjjmcsqb{at}4ax.com...   =20
  I can't answer your question, but when I went looking on my box=20
  (W2KSP2)    I found a
bunch of cookies in the =
Local=20
  Settings|Temporary
InternetFiles    folder of =
the=20
  Administrator.  That's odd because I do not log in=20
  as    Administrator on this=20
  box.     =20
 
/m<shrug>   
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 =
11:29:08=20
  -0500, "Glenn Meadows"<gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net> =
  =20
  wrote:    >Why
would the Local Settings/Temp =
folder=20
  of the Administrator.<Fsname>  =
have   =20
  >24,575 folders in it, taking up 1.67gb of =
space?   =20
  >    >What creates
items in that =
location?  I=20
  found copies of old Win95_X.cab   
>files =
scattered=20
  throughout.  Kept wondering where all my free space =
onC =20
  was    >going, as it was
creeping down everyday, =
and the=20
  log files were NOT 
filling    >it=20
  up.   
>    >How did I =
find=20
  it?  Mapped C of the server to my laptop, and ran=20
  Norton    >Utilities System
Info against it, and =
used=20
  the DRIVE tab to LOOK atwhat 
was   =20
  >taking up space on the drive.   =20
  >    >24,575 folders,
taking up 1.67 gb of=20
  space.

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