> And I am only reporting on my observations and experience. For the 
> Romans I have to rely on comparing notes with my school-mates. What you
> observed may be different. Rather like the parable of the 3 blind people 
> and the elephant.

I've at least actually touched the elephant.

> Machs Nicht - the whole "communion" ceremony is nothing more than ritual
> cannibalism anyway.

Machs quite a lot, actually. There are a lot
of things that aren't real in an objective
fact-based sense that still can be damaging
when misrepresented. A lot of harm has been
done by lore regarding matzo, for example.

>  >       Title: Bar Mitzvah Cake
>  ML> That too looks so wrong. This is wrong for
>  ML> the same reason (though it might taste good).
>  I Burtoned up a Bar Mitzvah recipe. No one pulls a gun and says
> "Eat it or die".

The badness of the recipe is not what makes
it wrong, though it's kind of wrong there,
too. The sticking point is that every of the
several bar mitzvah celebrations I've been
associated with has had a fleischig feast
appended to it, with milchig meals considered
declasse at best and a shame at worst, sort
of "look how cheap I can be."

And returning to a previous topic:

 After the year 1200 it became customary and later
 the norm to purify the fingers over the chalice
 first with wine then with water and to drink the
 mixture. This remains the norm for the extraordinary
 form. The norm for the ordinary form is found as
 above in GIRM, No. 278. [- EWTN, the Catholic TV
 network; the extraordinary form was the standard
 ritual before 1970]

I was confounding two separate events, the
unseen one of a drop of water for liturgical
purposes (not scriptural!) and the public
one of water and wine poured over the
celebrant's hands and then drunk by him,
a relatively snazzy way of disposing of the
waste materials without being sacrilegious
(it took me 3 tries to spell that word).

And it turns out that since the 1970s it has
been allowed for wine to be offered to the
communicants, but before that, it was mostly
not allowed and certainly not customary.

>       Title: Cannibal Sandwich

Funny thing. We were stranded in the middle of
nowhere, Belgium owing to a transit strike,
and sought refuge in a restaurant where the
menu included the American tartine, and when
I asked what that was, the waiter expressed
surprise that we didn't know, being Americans
and all. It turned out to be your cannibal
sandwich but with mayo.

Sour cream apple pie
categories: celebrity, political, show me
yield: 1

1/2 c sugar
1 c sour cream 
1 pn salt
2 Tb flour
1 egg, beaten 
2 c chopped apples (early tart apples)
1 single pie shell
h - Topping 
1/2 c sugar 
1/4 c butter 
1 ts cinnamon 

Oven at 375F.

Mix first 5 ingredients well. Add apples.
Pour into unbaked pie crust and bake 30 min 
or until custard sets.

Mix topping ingredients until creamy. Put on top of 
pie, mixing it in some with a fork. Return to oven 
for 30 or 40 min at 350F. 

This is a recipe I know to be one of the best 
desserts I have ever enjoyed. It was one of my 
mother's favorites and one of the delights of my 
early life when she made one at least every week. 

Clarence Kelley
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