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to: Roy Witt
from: Vladimir Donskoy
date: 2006-05-10 12:11:20
subject: Re: Situation on R2:50

Hi Roy!

Saturday May 06 2006, Roy Witt wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 VD>>>>>> Policy have information about elections only 3 places:
 VD>>>>>> 1.2.5 - "Zone Coordinators are selected by
the Regional
 VD>>>>>> Coordinators in that zone."
 RW>>>>> The word 'selected' means the same as appointed. Not elected.
 VD>>>> Who can "appoint" ZC? So - it is elections...
But means I
 VD>>>> understand.
 RW>>> The RCs in council choose and appoint the ZC, they're known as the
 RW>>> RCC. They vote, but it's not an election per se', it's a selection.
 VD>> OK, "RCC" is your term.

 RW> Read Section 6.2 about 'selection'...

Next 2 strings...

 VD>>>>>> 6.2 - "The Zone Coordinator is selected by
an absolute majority
 VD>>>>>> vote of the Regional Coordinators within the zone."

Where is term "RCC"? Where is our "Conclave" (like as ZCC)?

 RW>>> Only by RCC. The IC has nothing to do with it and is merely another
 RW>>> ZC and is equal, but not higher than the rest of the ZCs, per
 RW>>> policy.

 VD>> So - it is impossible: RCC of Z2 not want any changes.

 RW> Well, if you look at the regions in Z2, you can see that there are 'dead'
 RW> regions with only an RC and no nets in the region. That's called Z2C
 RW> nodelist stuffing, just to thwart this sort of thing. Thus, why you need a
 RW> one sysop, one vote election.

So - Z2C is not working, but I know it very long time...

 VD>> .. It want only same RCs, so - election Z2C by these RCs will start
 VD>> splitting of zone. :-(

 VD>> But Policy 1.2.7 write: "The International Coordinator acts as the
 VD>> chair of the Zone Coordinator Council and as the overseer of
 VD>> _elections_ -- arranging the announcement of referenda, the
 VD>> collection and counting of the ballots, and announcing the results
 VD>> for those issues that affect FidoNet as a whole."

 VD>> What "elections" it mean?

 RW> RCC policy referendum elections. Which in turn must be approved by the
 RW> ZCC.

Where is "election" in the Policy referendum? This is a selection
- one variant from many! Have no mans who "elected" to same
place.

Regards, Vladimir Donskoy

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