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to: Vladimir Donskoy
from: Roy Witt
date: 2006-05-11 09:06:26
subject: Situation on R2:50

11 May 06 12:14, Vladimir Donskoy wrote to Roy Witt:

 VD>>>>> But Policy 1.2.7 write: "The International
Coordinator acts as
 VD>>>>> the chair of the Zone Coordinator Council and as
the overseer of
 VD>>>>> _elections_ -- arranging the announcement of referenda, the
 VD>>>>> collection and counting of the ballots, and announcing the
 VD>>>>> results for those issues that affect FidoNet as a
whole."
 VD>>>>> What "elections" it mean?
 RW>>>> RCC policy referendum elections. Which in turn must be
approved by
 RW>>>> the ZCC.
 VD>>> Where is "election" in the Policy referendum?
 RW>> Election is implied by the wording. It takes a majority vote of the
 RW>> RCC to implement a policy change. That 'selection' by the RCs is
 RW>> managed and votes (selections) collected by the IC.
 VD> This is not "election".

That's almost correct. See the reference you made to election from the
Britanica, below. That's what the above policy section is about.

 VD>>> This is a selection - one variant from many! Have no mans who
 VD>>> "elected" to same place.
 RW>> It's not a vote or selection of any *Cs...
 VD> I try to find different from "election" and "selection".

You won't find it in Policy.

 VD> "Selection" is:
 VD> 1 the action or fact of selecting. 2 a number of selected things. 3 a
 VD> range of things from which a choice may be made. 4 a horse or horses
 VD> tipped as worth bets in a race or meeting. (Oxford dictionary)

Ahhh, no wonder you're confused. (Oxford) But, pay close attention to the
1st definition; the action or fact of selecting.

 VD> "Election" is:
 VD> 1 a formal procedure whereby a person is elected, especially to a
 VD> public office. 2 the action of electing or fact of being elected.
 VD> (from Oxford)

This is correct, for election.

 VD> "the formal process of selecting a person for public
 VD> office or of accepting or rejecting a political proposition by
 VD> voting." (from Britanica)

And so is this one.

 VD> So I back to question: what "election" make by IC?

Reference P4, section 1.2.7 where - "the IC chairs the ZCC and as the
overseer of elections -- arranging the announcement of referenda, the
collection and counting of the ballots, and announcing the results for
those issues that affect FidoNet as a whole." - from the meetings of the
ZCC. The IC is not the overseer of any *C elections. In fact, there are no
*C elections mentioned in policy. The one thing the IC can do in regards
to a ZC, is to reside over the impeachment proceedings of a majority of
the RCs in that ZC's zone.


Roy
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