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to: Vladimir Donskoy
from: Roy Witt
date: 2006-05-17 16:35:22
subject: Situation on R2:50

15 May 06 12:29, Vladimir Donskoy wrote to Roy Witt:

 VD> Hi Roy!

 VD> Thursday May 11 2006, Roy Witt wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 VD>>> "Selection" is:
 VD>>> 1 the action or fact of selecting. 2 a number of selected things. 3
 VD>>> a range of things from which a choice may be made. 4 a horse or
 VD>>> horses tipped as worth bets in a race or meeting. (Oxford
 VD>>> dictionary)

 RW>> Ahhh, no wonder you're confused. (Oxford) But, pay close attention
 RW>> to the 1st definition; the action or fact of selecting.

 VD> Selection is "selection"... Tautology.

 VD>>> "Election" is:
 VD>>> 1 a formal procedure whereby a person is elected, especially to a
 VD>>> public office. 2 the action of electing or fact of being elected.
 VD>>> (from Oxford)

 RW>> This is correct, for election.

 VD>>> "the formal process of selecting a person for public
 VD>>> office or of accepting or rejecting a political proposition by
 VD>>> voting." (from Britanica)

 RW>> And so is this one.

 VD> So - election is fact selection one from many by other people
 VD> (peoples), ans selection - choice one from many by this many (closed
 VD> circle).

 VD>>> So I back to question: what "election" make by IC?

 RW>> Reference P4, section 1.2.7 where - "the IC chairs the ZCC and as
 RW>> the overseer of elections -- arranging the announcement of
 RW>> referenda, the collection and counting of the ballots, and
 RW>> announcing the results for those issues that affect FidoNet as a
 RW>> whole." - from the meetings of the ZCC. The IC is not the overseer
 RW>> of any *C elections. In fact, there are no *C elections mentioned in
 RW>> policy. The one thing the IC can do in regards to a ZC, is to reside
 RW>> over the impeachment proceedings of a majority of the RCs in that
 RW>> ZC's zone.

 VD> You don't answer for my question "what word ELECTION use in this
 VD> place of Policy"? Who make ELECTION (answer - IC) and whom his elect
 VD> (as overseer)? Other his work describe this (referenda, ballots and
 VD> so on), I ask you about first word only.

For simplicity in the equation of what you want out of policy, there is no
such thing as an election of *Cs.  You have to go outside of policy to
find elections.


Roy
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