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to: Wayne Chirnside
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-07-23 04:55:06
subject: Re: Slicing

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Hello Wayne - 

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WC>> This happened first thing in the morning and I finished
WC>> the day though it was a major owie when that finger
WC>> touched the frame of the press while adjusting various
WC>> settings throughout the day. 

CA>> I think that would've scared me so badly I would've had to
CA>> go home and sleep it off. 

WC> I barely paid it any attention. I used to have an
WC> incredibly high tolerance for pain, 

What we refer to as 'pain' is the bodies "idiot light" on our
dashboard. Removing the bulb and then driving the car might not
be a good idea? 

WC> that however has changed with the severe injuries that left
WC> me crippled. Gradually my stamina failed on me over the
WC> last 6 years. 

In the movies the more pain the more the guy can tolerate. Real
life is less glamorous and we all eventually succumb to the
pain and fear of same. 

CA>> It's unfortunate how many of us were raised to be good
CA>> soldiers and continue as though nothing has happened when
CA>> we are badly injured.

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WC> I would have stayed and  shaken off the concussion but for
WC> the gaping hole in my head gushing blood ... 

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I get the impression you still don't think "toughing it out" is
a bad idea. 

CA>> My first AMI was at work and I stayed there and finished
CA>> my shift.

WC> AMI? Some kind of myocardial infarction? Atrial? That was
WC> not a good idea as beta blockers can limit damage to the
WC> heart if administered promptly. 

AFAIK you have to get there within 45 minutes. It took me
awhile to figure out what was happening to me since I normally
worked 12-14 hour days 6-7 days a week occasional dizziness
and/or nausea was an old friend (low blood sugar?). This was
about 20 years ago (or more) not sure they even had
beta-blockers back then? 

btw: My brother insisted I let him poke my finger a few days
ago.  He is a diabetic after his heart surgery.  The medication
for thinning the blood seems to always push people into diabetes?
Anyhow I had just finished a can of Cola (no breakfast) and it
came up 115.  He said it can go to 140 and still be OK.

CA>> Seems a bit insane to me now that I did that but the
CA>> really weird thing is a younger man working next to me was
CA>> having chest pains at the same time and he stayed and
CA>> finished his shift too. 

WC> Ah the good old days when young and thought ourselves
WC> indestructable... 

Well in my mid 30's, yes. 

CA>> We each deserve the same care and consideration we would
CA>> show to our pets, our friends, and our family.

WC> I'm on SSDI and my dogs been to the vet 3 times in four
WC> months over a problem similar to mine in type but far
WC> lessor in magnitude and scope, this on an SSDI income! When
WC> the dog gets to the point he's in a third of the pain I was
WC> in on my best day last year I'll have him put to sleep.

My last dog died when I was 18 from hardening of the arteries.
I was allowed to decide if we should medicate him or put him
to sleep.  I chose to medicate him and he died in his sleep at
the age of 13.  I don't know for certain if he was in any pain
or not.  He was not complaining, just acting very tired.

WC> Last time I saw a doctor was in 1995.

I can't recall my last doctor visit.  I took my children to
see the doctor and I get confused about whose appointment
was whose.  One doctor even asked when I was going to make
an appointment for myself.  I didn't realize that I looked
_that_ bad but I guess I did to him.

Your "training" to ignore the pain was and is a mistake, a
common mistake, but a mistake just the same.  It was not
your mistake at the begining but it is yours if you keep
it and refuse to let it go.

CA>> It was a mistake to treat myself with such disregard. I
CA>> would've never treated another living soul that badly. 

WC> I agree especially given the nature of the illness you
WC> recount. I've had some angina but taken steps to limit
WC> physical and psychological stress as well as attuned myself
WC> to my respiration rate. No attacks in a year though I may
WC> have aborted one last week by feeling what felt like first
WC> onset took a bunch of short rapid breaths. Back when I was
WC> having them regular it was a hell of a way to wake up! 

The lucky ones don't wake up. ;-) 

WC>> OH yeah, this system I thought I'd fixed is evidencing
WC>> problems again and actually may never have stopped having
WC>> them but the problems of a hang or crash with Win 3.1 are
WC>> less severe than with Win 98 so I've managed to work
WC>> around it. Gotta try putting in a different hard drive
WC>> ribbon cable as that's free but fear it may be the H.P.'s
WC>> on motherboard board I/O :-( Those are about the only
WC>> things left it could be. Then again the Seagate drive I
WC>> put in there is ten years old... Two failed drives in a
WC>> row? Glad I kept the 6.4 Gig Quantum drive as it's
WC>> possible it's good. 

CA>> If you can detail just what is happening to you and when
CA>> (after a 'clean' boot with the machine turned off/on or
CA>> 'other' etc.) something may click here. 

WC> It's some kind of weird problem where the operating system
WC> is not found on boot. I've seen error messages "No
WC> operating system found." Another error message I've seen is
WC> "disk timeout error" and all the power saving features are
WC> turned off in CMOS. One time on boot the CMOS settings for
WC> the C drive had mysteriously vanished and I had to re-enter
WC> the values manually as "auto" did not identify the drive as
WC> it had before. It's an intermittent sort of thing, worst
WC> kind of problem to diagnose. I changed the first listed
WC> boot drive to A: with C coming second just in case. I've
WC> also seen "error 200 hard disk failure" _one_ time but this
WC> is the second drive to indicate similar problems so i'm
WC> guessing maybe onboard I/O controller failure? 

This sounds like a bad connector or ribbon cable but I don't
think that could reset the CMOS settings for the drive unless
it was set to auto-detect and saw no hard drive? Otherwise that
would seem to indicate a low/bad battery for the CMOS.  Being
an older machine it is possible that it is both a bad connection
and a bad battery in the CMOS?  Ribbon cables _used_ to be
cheaper than batteries for the CMOS.  I might try the cable
first.

CA>> http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/dos/w31_cfg2.htm 

WC> I'll save this URL and snag it. 

The page will help with memory/intermittent hangups in W31 but
your problem sounds like a hardware problem to me. 

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