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from: Rich
date: 2003-06-28 08:53:56
subject: Re: DOS app behaviors and scheduling

From: "Rich" 

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   When COMMAND.COM runs it is in a VDM.  It's not necessary when you =
run an MS-DOS.

Rich

  "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message =
news:3efd0871{at}w3.nls.net...
  Does COMMAND.COM run as V86 task (the answer better be yes or a whole =
bunch'o shit is broken)?  If so, then running it starts a V86 session =
(i.e. a DOS box)
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3efcb8ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       COMMAND.COM is really a compat thing.  CMD.EXE is used to run all =
applications, Win32, Win64, Windows 3.x, Posix, MS-DOS, and OS/2.  Not =
all versions of Windows support all these targets but whatever are =
supported are handled by CMD.EXE.

    Rich

      "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message =
news:3efc494a{at}w3.nls.net...
      The stock NT/W2K command line is protected mode Win32.  Running a =
COMMAND.COM within that will fire up a DOS box.

      "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message =
news:3efc3404$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > I missed the subtlety...
      >
      > But an idle command line window requires no idle detection. The =
cleverness
      > is in detecting that a DOS app is idle while busy polling all =
its inputs.
      >
      > Paul
      >
      > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      > news:3efb3466$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > > > Check the 'misc' tab of the properties of a DOS app on an NT =
machine.
      > >
      > > I knew it could do that, but that's something different than =
just a
      > command
      > > line window.
      > >
      > > Of course, if you create a new shortcut to command.com, you =
can change
      > those
      > > settings for it, so I'll shut up . 
      > >
      > > - Bob Comer
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
      > > news:3efb2fda$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > > > Check the 'misc' tab of the properties of a DOS app on an NT =
machine.
      > > >
      > > > Paul
      > > >
      > > > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
      > > > news:3efb1e2c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > > > > I think he's getting OS/2 mixed in there -- it had the =
ability to
      > adjust
      > > > > idle detection in a DOS command line window.  If
NT can do =
that too I
      > > > > haven't run across it.
      > > > >
      > > > > DOS box is just shorthand for a DOS command line
window in =
either OS/2
      > > or
      > > > > NT.
      > > > >
      > > > > - Bob Comer
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      >


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   When
COMMAND.COM runs it =
is in a=20
VDM.  It's not necessary when you run an MS-DOS.
 
Rich
 
"Tony Ingenoso" <tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g=">mailto:tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net">tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g= t;=20 wrote in message news:3efd0871{at}w3.nls.net... Does COMMAND.COM run as V86 task (the = answer=20 better be yes or a whole bunch'o shit is broken)? If so, then = running it=20 starts a V86 session (i.e. a DOS box)
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3efcb8ce$1{at}w3.nls.net... COMMAND.COM is really = a compat=20 thing. CMD.EXE is used to run all applications, Win32, Win64, = Windows=20 3.x, Posix, MS-DOS, and OS/2. Not all versions of Windows = support all=20 these targets but whatever are supported are handled by=20 CMD.EXE. Rich "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g=">mailto:tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net">tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g= t;=20 wrote in message news:3efc494a{at}w3.nls.net...Th= e=20 stock NT/W2K command line is protected mode Win32. Running a = COMMAND.COM within that will fire up a DOS box."Paul = Ranson"=20 <paul{at}barkto.com>">mailto:paul{at}barkto.com">paul{at}barkto.com> = wrote in=20 message news:3efc3404$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 I missed the subtlety...>> But an idle command line = window=20 requires no idle detection. The cleverness> is in detecting = that a=20 DOS app is idle while busy polling all its inputs.>> = Paul>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20 wrote in message> news:3efb3466$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 > > Check the 'misc' tab of the properties of a DOS app on = an NT=20 machine.> >> > I knew it could do that, but = that's=20 something different than just a> command> > line=20 window.> >> > Of course, if you create a new = shortcut=20 to command.com, you can change> those> > settings = for it,=20 so I'll shut up . <g>> >> > - Bob = Comer>=20 >> >> >> > "Paul Ranson" <paul{at}barkto.com>">mailto:paul{at}barkto.com">paul{at}barkto.com> wrote in=20 message> > news:3efb2fda$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 > > Check the 'misc' tab of the properties of a DOS app on = an NT=20 machine.> > >> > > Paul> >=20 >> > > "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20 wrote in message> > > news:3efb1e2c$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 > > > I think he's getting OS/2 mixed in there -- it had = the=20 ability to> adjust> > > > idle detection in = a DOS=20 command line window. If NT can do that too I> > = > >=20 haven't run across it.> > > >> > > = > DOS=20 box is just shorthand for a DOS command line window in either = OS/2>=20 > or> > > > NT.> > > >> = >=20 > > - Bob Comer> > > >> > = >>=20 >>=20 >>= ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C33D52.CFD548E0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
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