BG> Nope.  At 100m, a shotgun is next to useless, but at the same
 BG> distance, a 7.62mm SLR is just sighting itself in.  There's a fucking
 BG> HUGE difference.

at close range, an autoloading shottie would be about the most effective
weapon immaginable. in that situation, i think that i'd prefer one of the
yank ones with a drum magazine to an uzi.


 BG> It is when it ain't gunna work, Bob.  Do you honestly believe that
 BG> even ONE single crim is going to voluntarily surrender his firearm? 
 BG> And I for one flatly refuse to sleep here without a weapon underneath
 BG> the bed, so that every man and his dog can walk in and shoot, rob, or
 BG> rape my family.  Fuck that.

thats called paranoia bill (:

BL> This has gone miles past the idea of SLRs now, and the gun loonies
BL> are the ones driving it. We, the People, see it as a chance to disarm
BL> these loonies permanently, and return Australia to where it was 30
BL> years ago when a gun-culture was unthinkable and the only ones with
BL> guns were genuine sharpshooters.

 BG> As far as I'm concerned, it is my basic human right to be able to
 BG> protect myself and my family from predators, and if I need a gun for
 BG> that, so be it.

i suppose that logan city may be different, but for most australians, the
need for that level of self defence is tiny.

                                keith
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