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echo: philos
to: RICHARD MEIC
from: BOB SEWELL
date: 1998-04-19 23:33:00
subject: ATHEISM v FIDEISM

 Like your typical fundy, Fredric Rice stomped his feet and said the
 following to Richard Meic:
 >  FR> By any definition, everyone is born not believing in gods and
 >  FR> goddesses. Ergo, everyone is born an atheist.
 > I'll have to stand with Bob on this one.  Atheism is not agnostism.
 > Atheism is the "non-acceptance" of any deity(s) existance.  Agnostism is
 > simply the lack of knowledge of such.
 FR> No, atheism is the lack of deity beliefs.  Everyone is born an
 FR> atheist.
    No good fundy will ever let the facts get in the way of their
 beliefs, the facts being, in this case, the definition of atheism from
 any English dictionary.  Note how he merely restates his belief, rather
 than try to clarify it with some supporting document.  Such is typical
 of the fundamentalist.  But then, we shouldn't be surprised, since
 there is no support for his belief.
    Isn't it funny to see Fredric rant and rave about fundies, yet
 refuse to recognize the one in his mirror?
    You have as good a chance of convincing Fredric of his error as you
 would any other fundy, like, say, Andrew Cummins.
    Auscultare...
... Stultum facit Fortuna quem vult perdere.
--- PPoint 2.05
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