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   I did the first time this very topic was discussed in this forum,  =
George won't acknowledge that.  Nor will George acknowledge that = Microsft
made the effort to give him the ability to create customized = install
images himself.  Instead he just ignores anything counter to his = claim
and appears to believe that if enough time goes by the memory if = his
earlier whines will have faded.

   I agree, George is not in the same class as Joe Barr or Mike Miller.  =
I never intended to suggest he is.

Rich

  "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message =
news:khujgvkpm6pcv7mnbqgk5h1k94gkl4nbji{at}4ax.com...
  Instead of calling Geo "whining" and "lazy" you could give some
  rational reason that Microsoft does not do what Geo is requesting.  I
  could imagine that there are all sorts of potential problems in doing
  what he wants.  Frankly your attitude of late reflects rather poorly
  on your employer.  Geo is not in the same class as Barr/m.

  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:35:22 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:

  >   I have no position on Microsoft's customers.  I have no idea why =
you brought it up since I never claimed to.  Maybe you are curious about = George.
  >
  >Rich
  >
  >  "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message =
news:d9pjgvokc8kg6315d98aackaj8uuol013b{at}4ax.com...
  >  I'm asking YOU *personally* about YOUR expressed attitude.
  >
  >  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:55:27 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
  >
  >  >   You asked about Microsoft the first time.  Now you are asking =
about my employer.  In both cases go ask them.
  >  >
  >  >Rich
  >  >
  >  >  "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message =
news:fbnjgvsrbklp4pe7usjfcnm5almnqg9e39{at}4ax.com...
  >  >  Then I'm asking you about you.  You are depicting your =
employer's
  >  >  customers as "whining" and "lazy?"
  >  >
  >  >  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:42:40 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
  >  >
  >  >  >   Ask Microsoft if you want to know about Microsoft.  Ask =
George if you want to know about George.
  >  >  >
  >  >  >Rich
  >  >  >
  >  >  >  "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote
in message =
news:jgljgv8151l9pkn7b27g90qotsjafgof76{at}4ax.com...
  >  >  >  Is Microsoft depicting its customers as
"whining" and "lazy" =
or is
  >  >  >  that just you?
  >  >  >
  >  >  >  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:20:44 -0700, "Rich"
 wrote:
  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >   Nice try but off topic.  George's whining is specific to =
creating new media for new installs.
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >Rich
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  "Adam Flinton"
 wrote in message =
news:3f093a5c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >  >  >  >  Rich wrote:
  >  >  >  >  >    Why can't you remember what you
installed?  Do you =
pay attention?  If=20
  >  >  >  >  > so, why is it so difficult for you to
remember what you =
did?
  >  >  >  >  > =20
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  Why can't you use your psychic powers to determine what =
FP/SP somebody=20
  >  >  >  >  using a laptop on a client site in another country has =
installed via=20
  >  >  >  >  windows update?
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  & then you've got a load on desktops to look
after, each =
one only a=20
  >  >  >  >  couple of clicks away from "windows
update". Now you've =
got to use your=20
  >  >  >  >  psychic powers to determine which users have applied a =
fixpack via=20
  >  >  >  >  Windows update (or even updated just OE/IE or possibly =
installed newer=20
  >  >  >  >  drivers).
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  Given you obviously possess these powers, just out of =
interest can you=20
  >  >  >  >  move objects with just the power of your mind as well?
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  Adam
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  > Rich
  >  >  >  >  > =20
  >  >  >  >  >=20
  >  >  >  >  >     "Geo."  =
wrote in message
  >  >  >  >  >     news:3f075f40{at}w3.nls.net...
  >  >  >  >  >     What I'm looking for is for Microsoft to
assume the =
responsibility of
  >  >  >  >  >     accounting for a current  build. I'm
tired of having =
to track this
  >  >  >  >  >     fricken
  >  >  >  >  >     nightmare patch work of fixes.
  >  >  >  >  >=20
  >  >  >  >  >     Geo.

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   I did the
first time this =
very topic=20
was discussed in this forum,  George won't acknowledge
that.  = Nor will=20
George acknowledge that Microsft made the effort to give him the ability = to=20
create customized install images himself.  Instead he just ignores
= anything=20
counter to his claim and appears to believe that if enough time goes by = the=20
memory if his earlier whines will have faded.
 
   I agree,
George is not in =
the same=20
class as Joe Barr or Mike Miller.  I never intended to suggest
he=20 is.
 
Rich
 

  "Gary Wiltshire" <gaw{at}sover.net>=20">mailto:gaw{at}sover.net">gaw{at}sover.net>=20
  wrote in message news:khujgvkpm6p=
cv7mnbqgk5h1k94gkl4nbji{at}4ax.com...Instead=20
  of calling Geo "whining" and "lazy" you could give
somerational =
reason=20
  that Microsoft does not do what Geo is requesting.  Icould =
imagine=20
  that there are all sorts of potential problems in doingwhat he=20
  wants.  Frankly your attitude of late reflects rather =
poorlyon your=20
  employer.  Geo is not in the same class as
Barr/m.On Mon, =
7 Jul=20
  2003 14:35:22 -0700, "Rich" <{at}>
wrote:>   I =
have no=20
  position on Microsoft's customers.  I have no idea why you =
brought it up=20
  since I never claimed to.  Maybe you are curious about=20
 
George.>>Rich>> 
"Gary Wiltshire" =
<gaw{at}sover.net>">mailto:gaw{at}sover.net">gaw{at}sover.net>
wrote in message =
news:d9pjgvokc8k=
g6315d98aackaj8uuol013b{at}4ax.com...> =20
  I'm asking YOU *personally* about YOUR expressed=20
  attitude.>>  On Mon, 7 Jul
2003 13:55:27 -0700, =
"Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote:>> 
>   You asked =
about=20
  Microsoft the first time.  Now you are asking about my =
employer.  In=20
  both cases go ask them.> 
>> =20
  >Rich> 
>>  >  "Gary
Wiltshire" =
<gaw{at}sover.net>">mailto:gaw{at}sover.net">gaw{at}sover.net>
wrote in message =
news:fbnjgvsrbkl=
p4pe7usjfcnm5almnqg9e39{at}4ax.com...> =20
  >  Then I'm asking you about you.  You are
depicting your =

  employer's>  >  customers as
"whining" and=20
  "lazy?"> 
>>  >  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003
=

  13:42:40 -0700, "Rich" <{at}>
wrote:>  =
>> =20
  >  >   Ask Microsoft if you want
to know about=20
  Microsoft.  Ask George if you want to know about =
George.> =20
  >  >> 
>  >Rich>  =
> =20
  >>  > 
>  "Gary Wiltshire" <gaw{at}sover.net>">mailto:gaw{at}sover.net">gaw{at}sover.net>
wrote in message =
news:jgljgv8151l=
9pkn7b27g90qotsjafgof76{at}4ax.com...> =20
  >  >  Is Microsoft depicting its customers as =
"whining" and=20
  "lazy" or is>  > 
>  that just =
you?> =20
  >  >> 
>  >  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 =

  08:20:44 -0700, "Rich" <{at}>
wrote:>  > =20
  >>  > 
>  >   Nice try but =
off=20
  topic.  George's whining is specific to creating new media for =
new=20
  installs.>  > 
>  >>  =
> =20
  >  >Rich> 
>  >  =
>> =20
  >  >  >  "Adam
Flinton" <adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com>">mailto:adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com">adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com>
= wrote in=20
  message news:3f093a5c$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
> =20
  >  >  >  Rich
wrote:>  > =20
  >  > 
>    Why can't you remember =
what you=20
  installed?  Do you pay attention?  If
>  =
> =20
  >  >  > so, why is it so difficult
for you to =
remember what=20
  you did?>  > 
>  >  > =20
  >  >  > 
>>  >  =
> =20
  >  Why can't you use your psychic powers to determine what =
FP/SP=20
  somebody >  > 
>  >  using a =
laptop on a=20
  client site in another country has installed via >  =
> =20
  >  >  windows
update?>  >  =
> =20
  >>  > 
>  >  & then you've =
got a=20
  load on desktops to look after, each one only a >  =
> =20
  >  >  couple of clicks away from
"windows update". Now =
you've=20
  got to use your >  > 
>  >  =
psychic powers=20
  to determine which users have applied a fixpack via >  =
> =20
  >  >  Windows update (or even updated
just OE/IE or =
possibly=20
  installed newer >  > 
>  > =20
  drivers).>  > 
>  >>  =
> =20
  >  >  Given you obviously possess these
powers, just =
out of=20
  interest can you >  > 
>  >  move =
objects=20
  with just the power of your mind as well?> 
>  =
> =20
  >>  > 
>  >>  > 
=

  >  >  Adam> 
>  > =20
  >>  > 
>  >  > =
Rich> =20
  >  >  > 
>  >  > =20
  >  >  >
>  >  >  =
> =20
  >     "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net
<mailto:georger{at}nls.net>>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">mailto:georger{at}nls.net>>
=
wrote in=20
  message>  >  > 
> =20
  >     news:3f075f40{at}w3.nls.net...>=
 =20
  >  >  > 
>     What I'm =
looking=20
  for is for Microsoft to assume the responsibility of>  =
> =20
  >  > 
>     accounting for a=20
  current  build. I'm tired of having to track
this> =20
  >  >  > 
>    =20
  fricken>  >  > 
> =20
  >     nightmare patch work of =
fixes.> =20
  >  >  >  >
>  >  =
> =20
  >  >     =
Geo.

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