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   From Windows.  I don't think you can do an upgrade from a CD boot.  =
At least I've never done so myself.

Rich

  "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3f073f53{at}w3.nls.net...
  From the latest builds?  Never seen that option at all.  Is this from =
a CD boot, or from running with Win2k running?  Hmm, more digging is in = order.

  --=20
  Glenn M.


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3f0737d8{at}w3.nls.net...
       I run WINNT32 with the /unattend option so that I don't get asked =
any questions.  Without this there is a dropdown that offers the option =
of an upgrade or a new install.  The upgrade leaves existing software = and
users and upgrades in place.

    Rich

      "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3f0730cd{at}w3.nls.net...
      Can you shed any light on doing a re-install on an existing system =
so that it does not break existing software installs?

      --=20
      Glenn M.


        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3f071faf{at}w3.nls.net...
           Put aside George's silly idea that full installs be made =
available to him because he is too lazy to create them himself.  (See =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/support/spde=
ploy.asp and =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/tools/hfdeploy.asp).

           Running a slipstream install does upgrade in place and all =
users and existing software remain.  This is how I almost always install =
service packs when at work.

        Rich

          "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3f071d64$1{at}w3.nls.net...
          BUT, the problem with doing a "re-install", is that the =
current builds and
          software do NOT allow you to keep installed software, user, =
etc.  I've tried
          that, mostly to no avail.  The ONLY way to get the install to =
run, is to
          allow it to delete the NT folder, and all the users, etc.  You =
have to
          re-install your software.

          I've found this to be true when trying to do a re-install of =
Win2KPro the
          SP3 CD build.  There is NO upgrade Install option, of Win2kPro =
is currently
          installed.  The ONLY option is to blow away the current =
install, and go
          through the hassle of a re-install.  I have NOT tried doing =
the SysPrep
          based install yet. which allows taking a fully installed =
system, and
          converting it to what is called an OEM image style install.  =
There is an
          option to force full hardware detect again, so you can roll up =
pre-installed
          systems with all the software installed to new machines.  This =
MIGHT work to
          allow you to change hardware on an existing system and not =
have to
          backup/restore, which doesn't properly bring back stuff (or =
I've not figured
          out the magic incantation.

          On the original Win2kPro NON SP based version CD, you can do a =
re-install
          over the top of the existing OS, and nothing is lost on =
installed apps.  MS
          made a change somewhere along the line of Win2KPro to prevent =
a re-install.
          I have a Non-SP Win2kPro CD, and on a system that would NOT =
allow without
          deleting the existing installation (didn't format the disk, =
just deleted all
          the Win2K files and started over), I used the original =
Win2KPro CD, and I
          was able to re-install the OS.  Then had to apply SP3, but =
that's no real
          big deal.

          Heck, I've got a license for the machine, a license for the =
software, but it
          just won't allow an upgrade/repair style install that goes =
over the top of
          the existing install.

          --
          Glenn M.


          "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3f06fe1c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
          > somehow I don't think we are communicating here.. I was =
saying I think MS
          > should be putting out a current build full distribution ISO =
instead of
          this
          > stupid barrage of patches and service packs. What I want is =
to go to the
          MS
          > website, type in my serial number and download in iso build =
of NT that is
          > current up to the minute patched so after installing I'm =
current.
          >
          > Geo.
          >
          >  wrote in message
          > news:f09845.e36000{at}harborwebs.com...
          > > -=3D> Quoting Geo. to Mike '/m' <=3D-
          > >
          > >  Ge> With Windows, MS and their pirate paranoia will never =
allow us to
          do
          > >  Ge> the current distro thing so we have to suffer with a =
3 year old
          > >  Ge> distribution, a service pack, a download of current =
drivers, and a
          > >  Ge> boatload of hotfixes. 
          > >
          > > What do you find unacceptable in Slipstreaming?
          > >
          > > Richard
          > >
          > > ... If this post also applies to you, then that's =
unintentional
          > >
          > > --- FMail/386 1.02
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          >
          >


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   From
Windows.  I =
don't think you=20
can do an upgrade from a CD boot.  At least I've never done so=20
myself.
Rich
 

  "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:3f073f53{at}w3.nls.net...
  From the latest builds?  Never seen that option at =
all.  Is=20
  this from a CD boot, or from running with Win2k running?  Hmm, =
more=20
  digging is in order.
  -- Glenn M.
   
   
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3f0737d8{at}w3.nls.net...
       I run
WINNT32 with the =
/unattend=20
    option so that I don't get asked any questions.  Without this =
there is=20
    a dropdown that offers the option of an upgrade or a new =
install.  The=20
    upgrade leaves existing software and users and upgrades in=20
    place.
     
    Rich
     
    

      "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
=
wrote in=20
      message news:3f0730cd{at}w3.nls.net...
      Can you shed any light on doing a re-install on an existing =
system so=20
      that it does not break existing software installs?
      -- Glenn M.
       
       
      

        "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3f071faf{at}w3.nls.net...
          
Put aside George's =
silly idea=20
        that full installs be made available to him because he is too =
lazy to=20
        create them himself.  (See http://search.microsoft.com/gomsuri.asp?n=3D9&c=3Drp_Results&=
amp;siteid=3Dus/itresources&target=3Dhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet=
/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/support/spdeploy.asp">http://www.microsoft.c=
om/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/support/spdeploy.asp and =

        http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/tools/hfdeploy.as=
p">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/tools/hfdeploy.asp;=
).
         
           Running a =
slipstream install=20
        does upgrade in place and all users and existing software =
remain. =20
        This is how I almost always install service packs when at=20
        work.
         
        Rich
         
        
          "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote in =

          message news:3f071d64$1{at}w3.nls.net...BUT,=20
          the problem with doing a "re-install", is that the current =
builds=20
          andsoftware do NOT allow you to keep installed software, =
user,=20
          etc.  I've triedthat, mostly to no
avail.  The =
ONLY way=20
          to get the install to run, is toallow it to delete the NT =
folder,=20
          and all the users, etc.  You have tore-install your=20
          software.I've found this to be true when trying to do =
a=20
          re-install of Win2KPro theSP3 CD build.  There is NO =
upgrade=20
          Install option, of Win2kPro is currentlyinstalled.  =
The ONLY=20
          option is to blow away the current install, and gothrough =
the=20
          hassle of a re-install.  I have NOT tried doing the=20
          SysPrepbased install yet. which allows taking a fully =
installed=20
          system, andconverting it to what is called an OEM image =
style=20
          install.  There is anoption to force full hardware =
detect=20
          again, so you can roll up pre-installedsystems with all =
the=20
          software installed to new machines.  This MIGHT work =
toallow=20
          you to change hardware on an existing system and not have=20
          tobackup/restore, which doesn't properly bring back stuff =
(or I've=20
          not figuredout the magic incantation.On the =
original=20
          Win2kPro NON SP based version CD, you can do a =
re-installover the=20
          top of the existing OS, and nothing is lost on installed =
apps. =20
          MSmade a change somewhere along the line of Win2KPro to =
prevent a=20
          re-install.I have a Non-SP Win2kPro CD, and on a system =
that would=20
          NOT allow withoutdeleting the existing installation =
(didn't format=20
          the disk, just deleted allthe Win2K files and started =
over), I=20
          used the original Win2KPro CD, and Iwas able to re-install =
the=20
          OS.  Then had to apply SP3, but that's no realbig=20
          deal.Heck, I've got a license for the machine, a =
license for=20
          the software, but itjust won't allow an upgrade/repair =
style=20
          install that goes over the top ofthe existing=20
          install.--Glenn
M."Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote =
in message=20
          news:3f06fe1c$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>=20
          somehow I don't think we are communicating here.. I was saying =
I think=20
          MS> should be putting out a current build full =
distribution ISO=20
          instead ofthis> stupid barrage of patches and =
service=20
          packs. What I want is to go to theMS>
website, type =
in my=20
          serial number and download in iso build of NT that is> =
current=20
          up to the minute patched so after installing I'm=20
          current.>>
Geo.>> <Richard.Town{at}harborwebs.commailto:Richard.Town{at}harborwebs.com">Richard.Town{at}harborwebs.com
A>>=20
          wrote in message> news:f09845.e36000{at}harborwebs.=
com...>=20
          > -=3D> Quoting Geo. to Mike '/m'
<=3D-> =
>>=20
          >  Ge> With Windows, MS and their pirate paranoia =
will=20
          never allow us todo>
>  Ge> the current =
distro=20
          thing so we have to suffer with a 3 year old> =
>  Ge>=20
          distribution, a service pack, a download of current drivers, =
and=20
          a> >  Ge> boatload of hotfixes. =
<sigh>>=20
          >> > What do you find unacceptable in=20
          Slipstreaming?> >>
> Richard> =
>>=20
          > ... If this post also applies to you, then that's=20
          unintentional> >>
> --- FMail/386 =
1.02>=20
+44(0)2082972486=20
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