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to: Michel Samson
from: Phil Marlowe
date: 2003-07-15 04:36:56
subject: Air conditioning

Ambulances were carting people off at the Jazz Festival
 last year when the temperature went that high.
 
 So you would still have to solve that problem.
 
 
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-----------Air conditioning
 
 I think my particular housing situation may be
 better than yours concerning cooling without an air
 conditioner because I'm in a very shaded area.
 But I still have to use one when it gets hot enough.
 An air conditioner may be your only solution.
 
 MS> ...refrigerator could be generating more heat
 MS> than i suspected...
 
 PM> How hot are the coils in back of your frig?
 
> Beyond fourty degrees Celcius, not burning but not
> comfortable. It runs for about fourty minutes then
> goes quiet for some twenty minutes...
 
 PM> A tip Hydro-Quebec repeats often is to keep
 PM> those coils free of dust-buildup.
 
> I'll check but doesn't it help with my electrical
> consumption only?
 
 Mainly yes.
 
> I mean, yes the refrigerator produces heat of its
> own and that adds up when it takes longer to
> remove heat inside but would it be that much?
 
 No. But worse if the coils are dirty.  You
 probably generate more heat than that when you
 cook. Don't worry about your frig if the coils are
 clean. Now that you've explained it, it would seem
 your downstairs neighbor could be an additional
 source of heat. But how much is hard to tell.
 
 MS> Only the lower halves of our windows let air
 MS> circulate, that puts a lot of distance between it
 MS> and the ceiling... ...heat reservoir!
 
 PM> Sounds like -that- could be a problem.
 
 But not as bad as I first thought, from what
 you've explained about your use of fans.
 
> I was thinking i should drill a four inches hole
> in the ceiling and try to pump that heat in the
> attic. There happens to be plenty of space in the
> wardrobe to conceal it all but i never seen
> openings in a ceiling ever so i'm not certain this
> would be a sound house building practice...
> Perhaps it's sealed for a purpose, something about
> condensation for example.  If there's no such
> issue i suppose people would prefer to keep their
> windows clear and use attics to dump heat from the
> air-conditioner instead but it's possible it gets
> too hot over there for that to work...
 
 That's a dubious proposition with unknown results.
 You could cause problems.
 And you seem to be getting enough circulation with
 your fans. But fans can only do so much when the
 temperature is very high.
 
 MS> ...air conditioners... ...i guess it may be my
 MS> solution next year.
 
 PM> ...get one with manual controls. Less to go
 PM> wrong, and cheaper.
 
> Yes, i was searching the Net lately and i've seem
> related mentions.
 
> I found a lot more than i expected, actually!!!
 
 [...]
 
 Can't comment on any of those theoretical developments
 you mention. The only other practical A/C system
 in operation [used in some western states] won't
 work here -- it requires a -dry- climate.
 Humidity here is too high.
 
 A room A/C may be the only way to go.
 I would start looking around and checking prices.
 Walmart, Canadian Tire, Zellers, the Bay, Home
 Depot, and Reno Depot all had 5000 or 6000 BTU
 units at about $150 at the start of the summer.
 Check their websites.
 
 Walmart in the US had them for $79... if you get
 to the US.
 

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