From: Mike '/m' 



An interesting question to ponder here: does Microsoft internally provide
to its own people the type of release that its customers are asking for
here?  Or do the Microsoft people waste hours of time trying to figure out
how to secure a new install?

 /m

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:01:08 -0500, Douglas Smith  wrote:

>Why should we the end user have to create our own?  This costs my
>company money by taking me away from my support functions.
>
>BTW, have you ever provided support for a significant number of users?
>If you had, you might change your tune about some of these issues.
>
> - Doug.
>
>
>In article , "Rich"  says...
>>    Why?  Microsoft has provided a mechanism for customers to create their
own installs, with whatever changes and custom software they want or don't
want.  Many folks use this.  George complains because he is too lazy.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>   "Douglas Smith"  wrote in message
news:MPG.197205c8617efa2e9896f0{at}news.barkto.com...
>>   I agree MS should do this, but they aren't likely to even if large
>>   corporate customers request it.  Therefore, if falls upon the users to
>>   do what MS should be doing.   Besides, they think if you could D/L the
>>   updated ISO, people would be stealing it right and left.
>>
>>    - Doug.
>>
>>
>>   In article , georger{at}nls.net says...
>>   > "Douglas Smith" 
wrote in message
>>   > news:MPG.19712e90c301c70a9896ef{at}news.barkto.com...
>>   >
>>   > > To create a bootable, slip-stream service pack, see
>>   > > http://www.duspinnst.com/bootcd.htm.  Don't know how
you could add the
>>   > > barrage of patches.  Mostly, I don't at our site as it is near
>>   > > impossible for one person to test and rollout the
plethora of patches
to
>>   > > 300 workstations.
>>   >
>>   > Why should millions users have to do this millions of times
instead of
MS
>>   > doing it once each time a new patch is released?
>>   >
>>   > When I want an up to date version of Knoppix, I go to www.knoppix.com
and
>>   > download the latest build. I don't have to fritz around with finding
>>   > patches, making slipstream cd's, none of this nonsense. I download an
iso
>>   > file, click on it and burn a CD, presto I'm current. That is a really
nice
>>   > advantage over the way it works with Windows.
>>   >
>>   > Geo.
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >

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