On Sep 23, 8:56 am, "Mac Breck"  wrote:
> "David E. Powell"  wrote in
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> > On Sep 22, 9:45 pm, Andrew Swallow  wrote:
> > > Jan wrote:
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> > > > It was interesting reading JMS's theory about why Byron was so
> disliked, though
> > > > I don't think I agree (perhaps because I've never been the geek
> who wanted to
> > > > get the prom queen ).  I noticed long ago that
I liked him
> better on the page
> > > > than I did in the episodes.  I don't think that it was anything
> wrong with what
> > > > Robin Atkin Downes did as an actor as it was some of the editing
> choices and
> > > > possibly the fact that none of Byron's followers were speaking
> parts until the
> > > > crisis.  There were scenes where Byron was relating to his people
> that were cut
> > > > or shortened in the editing bay that might have helped if they'd
> been left in.
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> > > A major reason that people do not like Byron is that he gives off
> too
> > > many warning signals about his cult.  The video of Robbie Williams
> > > singing "Sin Sin Sin" shows similar signals.
> > > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pjx2NSPThAM>
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> > > When Garibaldi goes to see Byron he keeps meeting pretty girls - in
> > > most places security guards are big, burly men.  Lots of girls are
> > > a harem = sex.
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> > > Next Byron is rude to Garibaldi, there are polite ways of saying no.
> > > Byron also acts like he is attending a job interview, so No means
> > > Yes.  When Lyta is sent to Byron he is rude and over bearing to her,
> > > particularly in the use of commands.   This is from a man who is
> > > preaching love.  He may preach love but he is obviously about
> > > something else.
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> > > The male geeks may be unhappy with Byron winning the prom queen
> > > but this does not explain why the women do not like him.  However
> > > as the cult video shows women are wise to be suspicious about an
> > > exploitative man into power, sex and lies - they will get burnt.
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> > > Andrew Swallow
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> > Good points.
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> > Byron reminded me more of a Warren Jeffs type than just the average
> > guy who "won the prom queen." (If that was true by the
way, why didn't
> > fans hate on Sinclair or Sheridan or Marcus...
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> Because we could feel good about an admirable character, a good guy,
> someone we genuinely like,  winning the prom queen?  There's just
> something slimy about Byron, and it sets off a sixth sense alarm, and
> you're not entirely sure why, but you just *know*.  You don't have to be
> a geek to feel this way, either.  Personally, I'd hate to see somebody I
> like end up with Byron, *regardless* of whether or not I was in the
> running for that someone (Lyta).

Ironically I think some of that might have happened with Zack too, as
he was in a position to se that this organization was going to get bad
heat on it, he would have twigged to certain things, and he also had
experience of getting into a group, thinking it was great, and down
the road realizing that there were some big problems with it. Which
ironically drew him to her.... Also ironically, Zack at times tried to
talk to people within the B5 organization on her behalf, as he had
tried to moderate the Nightwatch from within.... some really
interesting reversals for both characters in that part of the arc but
all totally in character. Very good details.

> >.. or Talia?)
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> Because the non-sleeper personality of Talia was somewhat likeable?

I thought Talia was cool actually, especially in stuff like Mind War.
The thing with her and Sinclair in the museum (with the guitar) was
cool too. Especially that she touched the strings. (Museum no no even
in the future I guess, but shows curiosity. Also the "feel the aura"
thing.)

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