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echo: educator
to: MATT SMITH
from: DAN TRIPLETT
date: 1997-03-22 17:33:00
subject: Re: Tenure

MATT SMITH spoke of Re: Tenure to DAN TRIPLETT on 03-18-97
MS>DT> MS>    I'm just pointing out that the teacher-discipline process
MS>DT> MS>does not work  as well as the student-discipline process.
MS>DT> Really?  Is that statement generally true or just true in the
MS>DT> case  you 
MS>DT> cited?  
MS>    It's true _generally_ in North Carolina.
MS>    There are 17 appeals-court-level cases on firing tenured teachers
MS>in  this state.  The key one "Thompson vs. Bd. of Education" shows
MS>that even  physical abuse that would get a parent arrested if he did
MS>it to his own kid  will not be sufficient to fire a tenured teacher.
Not having these cases before me for my review puts me at a 
disadvantage.  I'm am sure that there are circumstances that were found 
by the court to be insufficient cause for dismissal.  Again, I would 
need to see the precise documented cases to know for sure, but I suspect 
that you are making a big leap when you suggest that teachers can get 
away with abusing a student physically.  Such actions are considered a 
crime in every state...it's called assault.  If you are saying that a 
teacher can assault students with no fear of any consequences, I 
seriously doubt your sincerity.
So what is your bottom line here?  Do away with tenure?  Change the 
court system??  Or perhaps you are considering moving to another state?
DT
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