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to: LOUIS RIZZUTO
from: CHRISTOPHER DI ARMANI
date: 1997-06-04 08:53:00
subject: newest ver delphi `97

Hello Louis!
28 May 97 03:18, Louis Rizzuto wrote to Christopher di Armani:
 CdA>> Give yourself a break and understand that it will take a
 CdA>> while.  :)
 LR> I have.  See my reply to Don Kraus.  I went back to my TP 6.0.
 LR> It makes more sense.  I am looking into Java - that makes more
 LR> sense to me than my Delphi experience.
I'll be looking into Java too.  I really wonder how much of the Java hype is 
vapor-ware though.  I think the hardest part of working with Delphi for me to 
"get" was that everything hangs off events.  Once I finally "got" that part, 
things went easier, and it was just a matter of finding what event I wanted 
to use to get the job done.
 LR> I do want to thank you for sharing your experience with me.  That
 LR> is very generous of you.  I was going a bit batty over here -
 LR> especially thinking I had turned stupid or something.
You're welcome Louis.  When I read your message it really hit home for me, 
and the frustration I had felt trying to get up to speed with it.  Like you, 
I held off dealing with Windows programming for a long time, simply because 
of how complex the whole thing appeared to me.  Delphi *vastly* simplified 
the process for me, even with the huge learning curve.  I cannnot imagine 
having attempted to make the jump and use C++ and the Win API only.  I'd have 
slit my own throat ages ago!
 LR> In the last 25 years or so, I do not think anything has had this
 LR> negative effect upom me.  I have a long track record of picking
 LR> up new compilers in a few days.  I picked up 'C' in a few days
 LR> and was doing graphics in it in a week - had it working under
 LR> UNIX and VAX/VMS - a piece of cake for me.  This Delphi think is
 LR> quite complicated and I am not pursuaded it is worth doing just
 LR> to create a Windows apps.
I think it's that WINDOWS is very complicated.  The twirler-hats at MS did 
their best to make it impossible for alot of people, and they seem to have 
succeeded.  Delphi (for me) takes all the lower-level stuff and hides it for 
me so I can't hurt myself on it.  Unfortunately, that very advantage was also 
the thing that made understanding how it all hangs together *very* difficult 
for me.
 LR> Now given this level complexity - if Java is this complex - in
 LR> return for being able to write a apps once and run it anywhere -
 LR> um, appeals to me. :)
 Exactly.  I'd be really curious to hear your experience with Java.  
I recently picked up a copy of Symantec's Cafe very cheaply from some guy who 
was getting rid of it.  Haven't had much if a chance to look at it yet 
ough.
Take Care Of You.
Christopher di Armani
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Internet diarmani@axionet.com
The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them
into the impossible.
--- GoldED 2.42.G0214
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