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echo: philos
to: DAVID MARTORANA
from: WILLIAM ELLIOT
date: 1998-04-14 06:51:00
subject: `Biological Consciousness`

 >>> David Martorana on "Biological Consciousness" 
 DM> What I meant was that
 DM> "merely human" consciousness is physical ...(likely) of no more
 DM> meaning (though more interesting) than any other organ talents.
A conjecture without any substantive evidence one way or the other.
 DM> Whatever specialized functions it was developed to satisfy, there
 DM> is no information in my database to indicate an any 
 DM> "MORE-OR-LESS- OF-IT.
Don't understand.
 DM> I "think" our differences are (perhaps)
 DM> those of how we measure it's IMPORTANCE. Your yardstick (seems
 DM> so?) indicates a value for consciousness that my yardstick is not
 DM> yet long enough to measure. I enjoy consciousness, and wonder
 DM> about it.  You do the same but add other more epic extensions of
 DM> meaning/importance to it. 
Yup without consciousness there'd be no universe that I'd be concerned about.
 DM> Consciousness is some
 DM> fuzzy for me to nail down, but as I said originally, it does not
 DM> "knowingly" exist beyond the life of its container, and so would
 DM> suggest reasonable assumptions. 
From prehistory to tomorrow, there's no available definition.
 DM> If you have other exhibits of
 DM> evidence, or good reasoning, for a MORE-OF-IT, my attention is
 DM> lively. |
A good knock on the head will give you a 'less of it', and for 'more of it', 
a bucket of cold water.
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