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   Put aside George's silly idea that full installs be made available to =
him because he is too lazy to create them himself.  (See =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/support/spde=
ploy.asp and =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/tools/hfdeploy.asp).

   Running a slipstream install does upgrade in place and all users and =
existing software remain.  This is how I almost always install service =
packs when at work.

Rich

  "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3f071d64$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  BUT, the problem with doing a "re-install", is that the current builds =
and
  software do NOT allow you to keep installed software, user, etc.  I've =
tried
  that, mostly to no avail.  The ONLY way to get the install to run, is =
to
  allow it to delete the NT folder, and all the users, etc.  You have to
  re-install your software.

  I've found this to be true when trying to do a re-install of Win2KPro =
the
  SP3 CD build.  There is NO upgrade Install option, of Win2kPro is =
currently
  installed.  The ONLY option is to blow away the current install, and =
go
  through the hassle of a re-install.  I have NOT tried doing the =
SysPrep
  based install yet. which allows taking a fully installed system, and
  converting it to what is called an OEM image style install.  There is =
an
  option to force full hardware detect again, so you can roll up =
pre-installed
  systems with all the software installed to new machines.  This MIGHT =
work to
  allow you to change hardware on an existing system and not have to
  backup/restore, which doesn't properly bring back stuff (or I've not =
figured
  out the magic incantation.

  On the original Win2kPro NON SP based version CD, you can do a =
re-install
  over the top of the existing OS, and nothing is lost on installed =
apps.  MS
  made a change somewhere along the line of Win2KPro to prevent a =
re-install.
  I have a Non-SP Win2kPro CD, and on a system that would NOT allow =
without
  deleting the existing installation (didn't format the disk, just =
deleted all
  the Win2K files and started over), I used the original Win2KPro CD, =
and I
  was able to re-install the OS.  Then had to apply SP3, but that's no =
real
  big deal.

  Heck, I've got a license for the machine, a license for the software, =
but it
  just won't allow an upgrade/repair style install that goes over the =
top of
  the existing install.

  --
  Glenn M.


  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3f06fe1c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  > somehow I don't think we are communicating here.. I was saying I =
think MS
  > should be putting out a current build full distribution ISO instead =
of
  this
  > stupid barrage of patches and service packs. What I want is to go to =
the
  MS
  > website, type in my serial number and download in iso build of NT =
that is
  > current up to the minute patched so after installing I'm current.
  >
  > Geo.
  >
  >  wrote in message
  > news:f09845.e36000{at}harborwebs.com...
  > > -=3D> Quoting Geo. to Mike '/m' <=3D-
  > >
  > >  Ge> With Windows, MS and their pirate paranoia will never allow =
us to
  do
  > >  Ge> the current distro thing so we have to suffer with a 3 year =
old
  > >  Ge> distribution, a service pack, a download of current drivers, =
and a
  > >  Ge> boatload of hotfixes. 
  > >
  > > What do you find unacceptable in Slipstreaming?
  > >
  > > Richard
  > >
  > > ... If this post also applies to you, then that's unintentional
  > >
  > > --- FMail/386 1.02
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  >
  >


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   Put aside
George's silly =
idea that=20
full installs be made available to him because he is too lazy to create = them=20
himself.  (See http://search.microsoft.com/gomsuri.asp?n=3D9&c=3Drp_Results&=
amp;siteid=3Dus/itresources&target=3Dhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet=
/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/support/spdeploy.asp">http://www.microsoft.c=
om/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/support/spdeploy.asp and =

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/tools/hfdeploy.as=
p">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/tools/hfdeploy.asp;=
).
 
   Running a
slipstream =
install does=20
upgrade in place and all users and existing software remain.  This
= is how I=20
almost always install service packs when at work.
 
Rich
 

  "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:3f071d64$1{at}w3.nls.net...BUT,=20
  the problem with doing a "re-install", is that the current builds=20
  andsoftware do NOT allow you to keep installed software, user, =
etc. =20
  I've triedthat, mostly to no avail.  The ONLY way to get the =
install=20
  to run, is toallow it to delete the NT folder, and all the users,=20
  etc.  You have tore-install your
software.I've found =
this to=20
  be true when trying to do a re-install of Win2KPro theSP3 CD =
build. =20
  There is NO upgrade Install option, of Win2kPro is=20
  currentlyinstalled.  The ONLY option is to blow away the =
current=20
  install, and gothrough the hassle of a re-install.  I have =
NOT tried=20
  doing the SysPrepbased install yet. which allows taking a fully =
installed=20
  system, andconverting it to what is called an OEM image style=20
  install.  There is anoption to force full hardware detect =
again, so=20
  you can roll up pre-installedsystems with all the software =
installed to=20
  new machines.  This MIGHT work toallow you to change hardware =
on an=20
  existing system and not have tobackup/restore, which doesn't =
properly=20
  bring back stuff (or I've not figuredout the magic =
incantation.On=20
  the original Win2kPro NON SP based version CD, you can do a =
re-installover=20
  the top of the existing OS, and nothing is lost on installed =
apps. =20
  MSmade a change somewhere along the line of Win2KPro to prevent a=20
  re-install.I have a Non-SP Win2kPro CD, and on a system that would =
NOT=20
  allow withoutdeleting the existing installation (didn't format the =
disk,=20
  just deleted allthe Win2K files and started over), I used the =
original=20
  Win2KPro CD, and Iwas able to re-install the OS.  Then had to =
apply=20
  SP3, but that's no realbig deal.Heck, I've
got a license =
for the=20
  machine, a license for the software, but itjust won't allow an=20
  upgrade/repair style install that goes over the top ofthe existing =

  install.--Glenn
M."Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:3f06fe1c$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>=20
  somehow I don't think we are communicating here.. I was saying I think =

  MS> should be putting out a current build full distribution ISO =
instead=20
  ofthis> stupid barrage of patches and service
packs. What I =
want is=20
  to go to theMS> website, type in my serial number and =
download in=20
  iso build of NT that is> current up to the minute patched so =
after=20
  installing I'm current.>>
Geo.>> <Richard.Town{at}harborwebs.commailto:Richard.Town{at}harborwebs.com">Richard.Town{at}harborwebs.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message> news:f09845.e36000{at}harborwebs.=
com...>=20
  > -=3D> Quoting Geo. to Mike '/m'
<=3D-> >> =
> =20
  Ge> With Windows, MS and their pirate paranoia will never allow us=20
  todo> >  Ge> the
current distro thing so we have =
to=20
  suffer with a 3 year old> >  Ge>
distribution, a =
service=20
  pack, a download of current drivers, and a>
>  Ge> =
boatload=20
  of hotfixes. <sigh>>
>> > What do you find=20
  unacceptable in Slipstreaming?>
>> > =
Richard>=20
  >> > ... If this post also applies to you,
then that's=20
  unintentional> >> > ---
FMail/386 1.02> =
> =20
 
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