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to: Rich
from: Douglas Smith
date: 2003-07-06 17:48:10
subject: Re: Slipstream installs

From: Douglas Smith 

What is the big problem in creating say a Windows 2000 SP3 ISO that we
could download?  Are they available internally?

You didn't answer my question if you have ever provided support to users.

 - Doug.


In article , "Rich"  says...
>    Because you create what you want.  What does a large number of users have
to do with this?  George is whining about an install point for new
installations not existing ones.  I would be very suspecious if you are
performing full upgrades on all yours users just to apply any updates?  For
new installations, especially if you are a large organization, I suspect
you have a standard configuration with Windows, applications, etc and that
you build and test this configuration before deploying.
>
> Rich
>
>   "Douglas Smith"  wrote in message
news:MPG.19721fdb52549a629896f1{at}news.barkto.com...
>   Why should we the end user have to create our own?  This costs my
>   company money by taking me away from my support functions.
>
>   BTW, have you ever provided support for a significant number of users?
>   If you had, you might change your tune about some of these issues.
>
>    - Doug.
>
>
>   In article , "Rich"  says...
>   >    Why?  Microsoft has provided a mechanism for customers to create their
own installs, with whatever changes and custom software they want or don't
want.  Many folks use this.  George complains because he is too lazy.
>   >
>   > Rich
>   >
>   >   "Douglas Smith"  wrote in message
news:MPG.197205c8617efa2e9896f0{at}news.barkto.com...
>   >   I agree MS should do this, but they aren't likely to even if large
>   >   corporate customers request it.  Therefore, if falls upon the users to
>   >   do what MS should be doing.   Besides, they think if you could D/L the
>   >   updated ISO, people would be stealing it right and left.
>   >
>   >    - Doug.
>   >
>   >
>   >   In article , georger{at}nls.net says...
>   >   > "Douglas Smith" 
wrote in message
>   >   > news:MPG.19712e90c301c70a9896ef{at}news.barkto.com...
>   >   >
>   >   > > To create a bootable, slip-stream service pack, see
>   >   > > http://www.duspinnst.com/bootcd.htm.  Don't know
how you could add
the
>   >   > > barrage of patches.  Mostly, I don't at our site as
it is near
>   >   > > impossible for one person to test and rollout the plethora of
patches to
>   >   > > 300 workstations.
>   >   >
>   >   > Why should millions users have to do this millions of
times instead
of MS
>   >   > doing it once each time a new patch is released?
>   >   >
>   >   > When I want an up to date version of Knoppix, I go to
www.knoppix.com
and
>   >   > download the latest build. I don't have to fritz around
with finding
>   >   > patches, making slipstream cd's, none of this nonsense.
I download an
iso
>   >   > file, click on it and burn a CD, presto I'm current.
That is a really
nice
>   >   > advantage over the way it works with Windows.
>   >   >
>   >   > Geo.
>   >   >
>   >   >

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