Hi Michael,

 ML> > Our generation is the one that's going to have a good number of
 ML> bionic > parts in their bodies before finally wearing out. I've got
 ML> metal in both > wrists and the left elbow plus artificial lenses in
 ML> both eyes and the > bionic knee.

 ML> When they placed the last of the stents I wondered
 ML> if they might cause difficulties at TSA, but even
 ML> wuth the burger-size chunk of metal in me there is
 ML> no problem. Which makes one wonder if future
 ML> terrorists will resort to titanium or glass knives
 ML> and such weaponry.

Hopefully not. I have set off metal detectors with the metal in my elbow
& wrists but they'd been set more sensitive right after 9/11.


 ML> >  ML> Part of the fun is to shop as a pack, and if there are
 ML> >  ML> unfamiliar ingredients, have the chance to ask someone
 ML> >  ML> in the group for advice.
 ML> > That wouldn't be possible under the NYS quarantine rules but yes, it
 ML> is > fun to shop as a pack.

 ML> That being my point and why I am not wholly against
 ML> your suggestion to postpone the picnic.

Dale is in favor of cancelling it also, haven't heard from Nancy.


 ML> >  ML> All the guidances I've seen allow for under-24-hour stays
 ML> >  ML> in unapproved states. This of course shows that it's
 ML> >  ML> window dressing.
 ML> > Makes you think you can get in/out but in reality, you can't even
 ML> get > in.

 ML> You can do all of the above. Our level of freedom
 ML> in this regard is still substantially greater than
 ML> that of many countries.

Which, in turn, may be contributing to a slow spread to some areas.

 ML> > We can go anywhere and completly stay self contained. It would be
 ML> nice > to have water/sewage/power hook ups but even without them we
 ML> can
 ML> > survive.

 ML> You could probably get the hookups while adhering
 ML> to local distancing rules.

Depends on where we hook up but we can go out in the boonies and be self
contained.

 ML> >  ML> Most of the advice is completely illogical, and a lot
 ML> >  ML> of it is self-contradictory.
 ML> > Partly because each state (and sometimes even areas within the
 ML> state) > are all setting their own rules; there's no uniform rhyme or
 ML> reason to > it all.

 ML> I can speak only to a few states, Massacnusetts
 ML> and New York among them, which are internally
 ML> inconsistent. The phenomenon you describe further
 ML> compounds the problem.

True, like our governor cutting off alcohol sales in restaurants after
11 pm but still permitting them in grocery stores. Orange County cuts
the sales after 10 pm.


 ML> >  ML> We could just go on as if we hadn't planned a picnic
 ML> >  ML> at all. Perhaps two next year, who knows.
 ML> > That's probably the best thought at this point; let's see what
 ML> others > think.

 ML> I've not heard any huge chorus of "I just can't
 ML> survive without one" and have made (changeable)
 ML> reservatioms to be somewhere else.

I'd advise you go with your alternate plans but see what Nancy says.
Last I knew, she was debating moving the picnic back to the last week
end in Sept. but that probably still wouldn't affect various state
quarantine and travel restrictions.


 ML> >  ML> Everyone on the planet has at least one point of
 ML> >  ML> vulnerability.
 ML> > Even newborns--article in yesterday's paper about a tv anchor person
 ML> in > Charlotte whose whole family got it, including her days old baby.
 ML> She > thinks it came in from her parents visiting--they drove down
 ML> from the > mid west so had quite a bit of contact with other people en
 ML> route.

 ML> Especially newborns.

They have some immunity initially from their mothers but not a lot and
it doesn't last long.


 ML> > I know, my college class reunion was supposed to be this year but it
 ML> was > put off until next year also. Even the Olympics are going to be
 ML> held in > an odd year, if they don't outright cancel them.

 ML> I'm in favor of permanent cancellation of the
 ML> Olympics, as they have become something quite
 ML> contrary and incompatible with the original
 ML> ideal of friendly competition that transcends
 ML> national boundaries and prejudices.

Quite so!


 ML> >  ML> Ah, well. I'd hoped that some clever workaround had been
 ML> >  ML> devised that we could emulate.
 ML> > No such luck. We're going to try to do an in state trip this fall,
 ML> just > have to figure out where and when.

 ML> Your state has quite a few attractions and
 ML> natural features. Be thankful you don't live
 ML> in Nebraska or someplace like that.

I'm sure there are attractions in NE but they don't have both the ocean
and mountains in the same state. (G)

 ML> >  ML>       Title: Peking Shrimp Ball Soup
 ML> > Hmmmmmmmm, this would be something different to do with some of the
 ML> > shrimp we brought back from Swansboro.

 ML>       Title: Awesome New Orleans Style Pasta - Carless Gay
 ML>  Categories: Cajun, Pasta
 ML>       Yield: 4 Servings

Another interesting thought.

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