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On 04-12-98 Frank Masingill wrote to Day Brown... FM> None of this is disputed in general, Day, however, I must say that FM> I think FM> you may give more emphasis to the writings attributed to Paul in FM> fixing the FM> status of the Church than history strictly allows. After all, the FM> basis of FM> the Petrine Theory is associated with Peter, not Paul, and as far as I FM> can see FM> (and I don't claim to be a historical scholar of Church history) the FM> Church FM> though its structure right up to the Roman Pontiff seems to be a FM> derivative of FM> the Emperial rites reflecting the work of Constantine and Theodorus in FM> reversing the Diocletian laws and setting Christianity as the sole FM> legal religion of the empire. I spoze I gotta cop to using the tools that I have stumbled over, Frank. Still, Philemon and Romans 13, both I think accurrately attributed to Paul, one: recognized slavery, and two: the divine right of tryanny- neither of which was condoned by philosophers, most particularly the Stoics, who were trying to construct a more rational cosmology than traditional paganism. There is also his visit to the Stoic's alter in Athens to 'the Unknown God', where he has the chutzpah to try to tell them what he saw as the truth- without any substantiation- those familiar tenets of his faith. Among the Semites, truth was whatever some authority figure said it was. Compare that with Thucydides in his quotations of various Greek leaders, where the latter begins with those facts his audience is aware of, and tries to *reason* with them to reach a conclusion based on the *evidence*. In Herodutus, Xerxes is quoted as just not understanding how any group of men could organize an army to oppose him without a rule by a king. He just did not get it. Neither did his sucessor, Artaxerxes, understand how a Greek army could *elect* leaders to replace those Artaxeres had butchered. The complexity of republican society is disconcerting to smaller minds, and Christianity provided a simple explanation, much of which, I see Paul as the author of, and it is his advice that I see as pandering to the tyranny of the Emperors. FM> I would also credit Augustine with furnishing a lot of the cement FM> that held FM> this mix together so strongly with his fusion of philosophy and FM> Christianity FM> in a world view for the west. FM> FM> Sincerely, FM> Frank FM> FM> FM> FM> FM> FM> FM> --- PPoint 2.05 ___ * OFFLINE 1.58 --- Maximus 3.01 ---------------FM> * Origin: Maybe in 5,000 years - frankmas@juno.com (1:396/45.12) * Origin: * After F/X * Rochester N.Y. 716-359-1662 (1:2613/415) |
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