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to: Bob Klahn
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2008-10-11 02:54:46
subject: Speculation

Bob Klahn -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 BK>  ...

 EH>>>> Real community organizing is what Cindy McCain does. While
 EH>>>> Obama and his bunch claim to be concerned with "the little
 EH>>>> people" Cindy McCain is actually in the trenches helping
 EH>>>> the poor and sick.

 BK>>>  With couple dozen millions it's a lot easier to help the poor
 BK>>>  and sick. Gotta wonder how much of that money came from the poor
 BK>>>  and sick.

 EH>> Cindy McCain actually works in the trenches. She doesn't
 EH>> sit behind a desk telling others to do her bidding. Her

 BK>  Your point? Where did you ever see Obama working as a community
 BK>  organizer, telling others to do his bidding?

Obama and his wife aren't the type to do thje work themselves.

 EH>> money comes from her father's beer distribution company. He
 EH>> borrowed money to start the business after she was born.

 BK>  Which is relevant how?

You speculated that her money came from the sick and the poor.

 EH>> None of her money came from the poor or sick. Only an idiot
 EH>> would think that the poor and sick have anything wealthy
 EH>> people want to take.

 BK>  Actually, that's gotta be one of the dumbest things you ever
 BK>  said in your life.

Only a moron would think that.

 BK>  How do you explain the fact that poor neighborhoods tend to have
 BK>  more liquor stores and bars than average?

That is a lie.

 BK>  How do you explain the fact that the uninsured typically get
 BK>  charged more for medical care than those who are able to get
 BK>  insurance. That is gross bill, not co-pay.

What does this have to do with what Cindy McCain does?  Other than the fact
that she is working to get medical attention and food to those who can
least afford it.

 BK>  Preying on the poor may not pay off as big as stealing from the
 BK>  rich, but you can get away with it a lot easier.

Neither Cindy McCain nor John McCain prey on the poor. They go out of their
way to help them.

 BK>  Numbers games are more likely found in poor neighborhoods than
 BK>  the wealthy suburbs. Or were before the state run numbers games
 BK>  called the lottery.

In those numbers games, the poor were preying on their fellow poor.

 EH>> The McCains have helped more poor and
 EH>> sick in a month than you will ever help in your entire
 EH>> lifetime.

 BK>  *CINDY* McCain, perhaps, and certainly more than you will in a
 BK>  lifetime.

John McCain is the biggest supporter of Cindy's work.

I do what I can with what I have available.

 EH>> They continue to help the sick and the poor and

 BK>  She helps the poor and sick, He seems to be dedicated to seeing
 BK>  to it the poor and sick in *THIS* country don't get medical
 BK>  coverage.

That is a lie.

 EH>> Cindy risks her own life to help them. She went to Rwanda
 EH>> and helped feed the starving while there was still fighting
 EH>> going on. She has been to Sudan helping feed the starving
 EH>> there.

 BK>  While he did what to help?

He has been serving in the US Senate.

 EH>> She has been all over the world helping to feed and cloth
 EH>> the poor and heal the sick. She does not take from them,
 EH>> she gives her all to help them.

 BK>  Which matters to this point how? If she had to work for a living
 BK>  could she do that? Which is where her wealth makes it easier for
 BK>  her to do.

Meanwhile the Obamas and the Bidens do very little. In fact, the Bidens
claimed a whopping $300+ in charity last year.

 EH>>>> One of the McCain children was born in
 EH>>>> India with a severe cleft palate while Cindy was working
 EH>>>> with Mother Teresa. The baby needed extensive surgery to
 EH>>>> correct the cleft so it could live. John and Cindy adopted
 EH>>>> her and got her the surgery needed.

 BK>>>  And the surgery was paid for by the government. Gee... shouldn't
 BK>>>  we all have it that easy?

 EH>> No, the surgery was paid for by Operation Smile a private
 EH>> organization Cindy McCain is a major part of and

 BK>  If it was that might be dishonest. She brought two children back
 BK>  to the US, one was adopted by some friends of theirs, and one
 BK>  they adopted. I do believe she paid for the treatment for the
 BK>  child their friends adopted, but they had govt provided medical
 BK>  insurance that would cover their child.

Cite?

 BK>  If operation smile was paying for it then she would not have
 BK>  needed to pay for their friend's child's treatment. And it most
 BK>  certainly should not have paid for care that their insurance
 BK>  would cover. I see nothing in their biography to say Operation
 BK>  smile paid for any of it.

She is a large contributor to Operation Smile in both time *AND* money.

 EH>> contributor to. It was her work for Operation Smile that
 EH>> took her to India to work with Mother Teresa in the first
 EH>> place.

 BK>  That part was in the news long ago.

Yet you question her work.

 EH>> You are an idiot. Not only that, you are a mean-spirited
 EH>> idiot.

 BK>  You are the mean spirited idiot who doesn't seem to think the
 BK>  average american, including the poor, should get medical care as
 BK>  good as McCain and family get.

That is a lie. An egregious lie.

You know nothing about me. Nothing.

 BK>  And did you have the intellectual capacity to realize, not once
 BK>  in what you posted did you even allude to either of them doing
 BK>  anything for the poor in *THIS* country?

I said dhe went all over the world. This country is part of the world.

 BK>  Which, BTW, her efforts in that area were a great surprise to
 BK>  her family. But you know about that, don't you?

Are you saying her efforts are a lie?

Ed

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