TL>> I remember BBS systems that did a pretty good job of
TL>> insulating the caller from batch files, grep, awk and all
TL>> the tekkie stuff....and I think that's what's needed to get
TL>> new folks on-board....

 CA> I know I can't wait to return to the sysop as 'grand high
 CA> poobah' with all the posturing and insanity in control of the
 CA> hardware. ;-)

 CA> No one is going to ever play that game again. It's over.

wanna bet? it's face, too, has changed... just like the internet and those
who use it... the thing now, is that the sysop isn't so visible... believe
me... some web forums operators are just as good/bad as fidonet sysops have
been known to be... i've watched some knock folk off their FTP servers just
because they could at that moment in time... others i've seen, have put
blocks and redirects on their web servers for certain users at certain
times just because they could... its the same basic thing as ALT-H'ing a
user (ALT-H == hang up) just because they feel like it...

)\/(ark