Bob Klahn -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 BK>  ...

 EH>>>> Also, Sauer's claims weren't that he washed the thing, but
 EH>>>> that he loaded the gun by hand.

 BK>>>  Undoubtably they would be taught to do that. It's hardly high
 BK>>>  skill work. They load those things with belts, which are
 BK>>>  actually more like chains, where they load the bullets in the
 BK>>>  chain likely in the shop before taking it out and putting it in
 BK>>>  the plane.

 BK>>>  Just like they taught us how to load bullets into the clips for
 BK>>>  the M16. You wouldn't know about that, though.

 EH>> That wasn't his claim. His claim was that he hand loaded
 EH>> the ammo belt into the plane itself.

 BK>  I do not recall him saying that.

Of course you don't. You ignore all of Sauer's lies.

 BK>  You would hand load the belt
 BK>  into the plane. Into the guns, to be more specific.

The plane is the gun (notice gun singular) and Sauer claimed to have hand
cranked the belt into the gun. The gun has a motor feed and is almost
impossible to load by hand.

 BK>  On a A WW2
 BK>  bomber the gunner could load the belts into the gun.

The WWII bomber had M2 .50 cal machine guns. The A-10 has a .30MM chain fed
Gatling style gun. The .50 cal. is roughly 12MM and the weapon can be
loaded by a single person if needed. The 30MM requires crew of 3 to 4 with
the assistance of a motorized auto-loader.

 BK>  In a gunship the gunner can load the ammo into the gun. On a fighter
 BK>  or modern bomber the ammo has to be loaded by ground crews
 BK>  before takeoff.

The A-10 being a good example.

 BK>  However, I recall him mentioning a crank winder for the belt,
 BK>  which would be used when preparing the belt for loading, not for
 BK>  actually loading the gun.

Again, you selectively "remember" what he said. There is nothing
to "wind" before loading the gun.

 EH>>>> His claim is to have been a weapons mechanic.

 BK>>>  His training specialty.

 EH>>>> He even claimed to have worked with sidewinder missiles.

 BK>>>  Which, as a trainee, he might well have done.

 EH>> Not in Basic. He didn't leave Texas until he was discharged
 EH>> and AIT for aircraft weapons mechanic was in Colorado.

 BK>  Could be. That I don't know, can you prove it?

It has been pointed out repeatedly and you refuse to admit it. Sauer has 
admitted that he never left Texas until someone pointed out that there was
no weapons mechanic school at Lackland. He then tried to make the claim
that he went to Colorado before breaking his lag, but it was too late. He
had already claimed otherwise in his first round of lies.

 EH>> Plus, aircraft weapons mechanic school covers all aircraft
 EH>> and all weapons. Training on a specific airframe doesn't
 EH>> happen until they assign to that airframe.

 BK>  However, if they have a static aircraft, or access to flyable
 BK>  aircraft, you just may train on specific aircraft because that
 BK>  is what they have.

But that didn't happen since Sauer never left Lackland by his own admission.

 BK>  BTW, airframe applies to A&Ps, not weapon's mechanics.

Red Herring.

 BK>  I have seen that the Colorado base did have static A-10s, and an
 BK>  A-10 flight assigned. I have not found out exactly when, but it
 BK>  was around that time.

1978? The A-10 was only 3 years old at that time.

 BK>  In radio school we learned about all types of radios, but we had
 BK>  two UHF, one VHF, and one HF radio, and on RDF we actually used
 BK>  for training. We later had to learn the specific radios as
 BK>  needed. Which, BTW, were taught in courses at the bases.

Good for you.

 EH>> It's hilarious that you will continue to defend the
 EH>> indefensible even after having been shown to not know what
 EH>> you are talking about.

 BK>  On the contrary, I do know what I am talking about. I am poking
 BK>  holes in what you say. You obviously are shooting off about
 BK>  things you have zero knowledge of.

You think you are poking holes, but you are only convincing yourself of that fantasy.

 BK>  I was there, you weren't. I know, you don't.

You weren't with Sauer. You don't know what you are talking about WRT his
short service.

Ed

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