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echo: philos
to: FREDRIC RICE
from: BOB SEWELL
date: 1998-04-18 09:59:00
subject: The KKK et al.

 In a deposition submitted under oath, Fredric Rice said:
 FR> Yeah.  The KKK is a Christian organization
 bs> A myth with as much reality behind it as the legends of Leprechauns.
 FR> If you're trying to claim that leprechauns actually exist, I wonder if
 FR> you would consider providing evidence for at least one of them, Hal.
    It would be as easy to prove the existence of Leprechauns as to
 prove the KKK is a Christian organization.  And, who is Hal?
 FR> As for the KKK, they have always been a Christian organization.  They
 FR> meet inside of Christian cult houses and they all adhear strongly to
 FR> traditional Christianity.
    False.  Traditional Christianity teaches love for all people
 equally.  "Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His
 sight," is what Christian children are taught almost from birth.
 Anything different from the teaching of Jesus is counterfeit
 Christianity.  Anything taught by the "apostle" Paul that is contrary
 to the teachings of Jesus is also counterfeit Christianity.
 FR> And let's not forget the Aryan Nations, Church of Jesus Christ
 FR> Christian, the Sword and the Cross, all the Christian Identity groups,
 FR> and all of the Christian Reconstructionist groups.
    Counterfeit Christianity.  Even the Roman Catholic Church, especially
 after neo-Pelegianism influences crept into it, was for a long time
 counterfeit Christianity.
 FR> Pretending that problems don't exist is a good way to ensure that they
 FR> continue unabaited.  It's also a good way to advocate post-hoc their
 FR> continued existance.
    I'm hardly "pretending that problems don't exist."  It is a problem
 when hate groups exist and put into practice their hatred.  It is also
 a problem when they can misrepresent themselves and fool some of the
 public into believing they are some form of Christians.
 FR> It looks like most Christians consider black-skinned humans
 fr> and white-skinned humans to be two seperate species.
 bs> Your own false myth.
 FR> My guess is that you have no idea what the history of the Christian
 FR> cult has been.
    That would be an uninformed, not to mention incorrect, guess.
 FR> In fact I have in my possession photographs taken from
 FR> a copy of the Christian mythologies which was commonly sold to
 FR> Americans only 3 decades ago.  Said photographs depicted "niggers" and
 FR> "god's children"
 FR> -- that is, animals and humans -- against a depiction of the "Jesus"
 FR> god construct.
    Again, anything different from the teaching of Jesus is counterfeit
 Christianity.
 FR> Hatred and bigotry _is_ Christianity.  The history of the cult speaks
 FR> volumes about what the cult is all about.
    It speaks volumes about how man can twist any idea, no matter how
 good, and use it as a tool to gain or retain power.  No religion has
 been untouched by this.  Even Darwin's idea of survival of the fittest
 has been twisted and used to gain converts to aid in attaining power,
 as used by Hitler and Stalin, to name a few.
    What was taught by Jesus goes against the negative portions of the
 history of Christianity.  And your unwillingness to acknowledge the
 good that has been done and continues to be done by the churches serves
 as one of the specifics you call for below.  It shows your own brand of
 fundamentalist, the same attitude you condemn when found in religious
 fundamentalism.
 bs> Your comments, whether found here, on HolySmoke, or elsewhere,
 bs> regarding Christians are as false, extremely and unjustly prejudiced
 bs> and full of hatred as Cum-mins' anti-black comments.  You and Cum-mins
 bs> are two faces of the same fundamentalist coin.
 FR> Curiously you "forgot" to provide any specifics.  Perhaps they got
 FR> lost somewhere along the way.
    The specifics are found frequently enough in your posts that to
 include them would be redundant.  You ignore or attempt to diminish
 facts that contradict your position, you put yourself into an
 us-vs-them position and treat everyone who disagrees with you and/or
 seems like they are defending the "opposing" position with contempt and
 malice.  You have your beliefs and opinions and refuse to consider the
 possibility of error on your part.  If that isn't strict fundamentalism
 then the Denver Broncos didn't win the Superbowl last January.
 FR> I wonder what you've been programmed to believe was the cause for the
 FR> formation of the Southern Baptist Convention.  Certainly you've been
 FR> told to believe lies else you wouldn't have managed to continued to
 FR> believe that Christianity isn't evil.
    There's a fine example of what I just typed.  And, btw, who do you
 imagine has programmed me?  Who told me to believe lies?
... Stultum facit Fortuna quem vult perdere.
--- PPoint 2.05
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