CH> Shawn. The reason your cat didn't listen to you is two fold. First
 CH> cats and dogs go by non verbal language. Water or mild pepper spray
 CH> might have deterred your cat from the furniture. Having a good safe
 CH> (non loop type carpet) scratching post for the cat would have been

 SH>   We did all that Cindy.  As I explained in the message you (I assume)
 SH> didn't read.

 CH> helpful. De-clawing a cat is taking away their last defense.

 SH>   Bull crap.  They use their back feet for power.  Besides what does

 Excuse me. Everyone is entitled to disagree, yet to maintain the
 ambience we all enjoy here in this echo, please refrain from
 use of profanity. I swear too sometimes, but not here. :)

 SH> an indoor cat who lives on the 18'th floor of a apartment building
 SH> need with claws?

I understand this issue of de-clawing benefits the human and property
only. Yet I submit as long as you keep your cat indoors always and
keep him safe from possible harm having claws would protect him from-
I suppose the benefits are justifiable.

Please accept that some people differ with you. Some people would
rather use other methods to keep their furniture safe and their cat
happy. Cats have a natural desire to hunt/pounce/destroy. That's what
scratching posts, water toys and stuffed animal toys are for. A bored
cat will develop other problems just as bored people do. So you may
find you need to meet his natural needs- claws or no claws.

One argument for being against de clawing is what if your cat escaped
his safe 18th Floor apartment. What would he have to defend himself
with other than his hind legs.

So .. okay all that is moot now. Just keep him safe and happy. :)

 CH> I'm surprised your vet agreed to do it. But then (sigh) some vets are
 CH> very desperate for money.

 SH>    My goodness.  Cindy, re-read your message and possibly respond
 SH> again when your not in such a fowl mood.  You don't know my vet nor us
 SH> very

 I didn't say your vet. And yes I have a foul attitude toward vets
these days. Vets in general. They all seem all too eager to get your
money banking on our ignorance. That is to say: They look for something
to run a test on and convince you your pet needs this test.... and
it's very EXPENSIVE and of course nothing is found! So yeah you read
me right there about vets. I'm very skeptical about them. :( It's
better to do research and find out info from a non profiting type of
animal health info service. We learned the hard way.

 SH> well.  Yes I'm defensive in this message, as you clearly attacked me
 SH> in yours.

 I didn't attack YOU, I attacked the issue of de clawing. There's a
similar issue with removing the dew claws from dogs but we could go to
the FIDO Doghouse echo for that. :) Plus  I'll tell you what the
lesson was we learned the hard way wrt greedy VETS.

PS: if your cat likes to 'play' with water, get one of those water
toys. Cats have been known to know how to flip on lever type fauces
hehe...and really run up the water bill.

Cindy


... Pets are the Soul of the Household

--- PPoint 3.01