MR> TW> But in a hand held it is nothing more then a common circuit card trace
MR> TW> typicaly. And since it is a handheld it is floating. Isin't that about
MR> TW> the equilivent of NO ground?
MR> TW> Which you have pointed out can be somewhat made up for by Reciever
MR> TW> gain.

MR>But there is a ground: the operator's body is one plate of a capacitor
MR>which forms the counterpoise or ground radial.

 In my Experience I have seen NO difference in "Recievong", Which
 after al is the TOPPIC of thoe discussion, between a Held Radio and a
 NON held one sitting on a plastic Card Table. Now depending on
 circumstances positioning can make a differernce inside a
 house/Building.
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 þ SLMR 2.1a þ This note from El Cajon California USA