0n (26 Sep 07) Bob Ackley wrote to Cindy Haglund...

 BA> Replying to a message of Cindy Haglund to Ross Sauer:

 CH>  You know what is weird about this? That a marriage needs 'validation'
 CH> at all . Sure you need a license if you want to benefit from being
 CH> licensed (legal stuff), but otherwise you're married is validated by
 CH> the couple themselves in their commitment to each other.

 CH> It's like remember once upon a time women gave birth with no
 CH> assistance but fellow women. Now you gotta go to a hospital and
 CH> ...etc.

 BA> Actually you don't.  Some years ago I worked in an Omaha hospital. 

Sorry. I wasn't clear. Nothing new there. I am working on it though
have no fear. I meant by the way I wrote it to be sarcastic. :)

Better: Society in general has us women THINKING we have to go to the
hospital. Happily this trend is turning around. :) Just as the time
out of mind fact human milk is best for human babies is on the
rebound. :)

There are more midwives out there now but you know what? Sigh..  the
anti midwife groups harp aplenty when there's ONE SINGLE bad situation
wrt the having birth at home. You seldom hear/read of incidents of
problems had in the hospital and there are those aplenty.

One thing nice about the hospital situation is they no longer insist
the baby sleeps in the big nursery. A mother can keep her baby with
her at all times if she so desires. I think the reason for the nursery
was to give the new mother a rest-  but IMHO she can rest WITH her
baby and bonding takes place being together like that. It's natural.
:) Especially if the mother plans to nurse

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 BA> Early (like 4 am) one morning a young couple came in with their
 BA> newborn that they'd birthed themselves at home.  They just wanted to
 BA> get a birth certificate for it and have the baby checked while they
 BA> were there (AFAIK it was fine).

That is the natural way.Now if the baby had a complication they'd
probably put him/her into NICU or PICU right away. BUT if the problem
were something life threatening to the point NICU care would only
put off certain demise- would you chose to do that? Prolong
inviabliity? Hard question isn't it.

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 BA> I suppose you could take your newborn down to the county clerk and get
 BA> the birth certificate there, but I suspect that would be a really big
 BA> hassle.  It used
 BA> to be that the birth was just recorded in the family Bible...

  Plus taking a newborn out into public may be hazardous to the
newborns health because his/her immune system hasn't 'kicked in' yet
and IIRC doesn't until his/her mother nurses him/her.

Cindy


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