-=> Quoting John Jewell to Bonnie Goodwin <=-
 JJ> differences. And I'd like  to make a couple points over some of
 JJ> the somewhat reasonable arguments. Like,  the argument over 120
 JJ> or 140db for Max SPL points. The lowest sub-bass has to  be at
 JJ> least 110dB to be even audible over an engine, so 120dB(most SPL
 JJ> comes  from subs, right? I thought so) really isn't very loud.
        Well, it's too bad your ears won't know the difference.  120dB
causes almost instantaneous, permanant ear damage, whether the engine
is running or not.
        Besides, I don't know about *your* car, but all the cars I've
ever ridden in didn't require 110dB of *anything* to overcome the
"engine noise."  Many luxury cars are quieter than many houses.  I'm
driving a sports car and with the windows up, it still doesn't require
even 90dB, let alone 110!  As for the *lowest* bass, I does your car
engine have output at 20Hz?  Mine doesn't.  Maybe if you're driving a
semi-truck.  It's diffcult to hear 20Hz regardless of the environment
and really not neccessary.  Very few real instruments have output at
20Hz, mostly just synthesizers.  
        As for not being "very" loud, if I can hear the friggin thing
1 mile away, it's pretty darn loud!  Just how is it I can hear most
of these things 2 blocks away, yet you're claiming you can't hear the
sub until it's over 110dB?  If the engine was *that* loud, I'd hear it
a few blocks away too.  (actually I have seen some old muscle cars
with those glass-pak (sp) mufflers that *are* that loud, but obviously
that's a choice as well.  They don't *have* to be that loud.  Normal
cars aren't.
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