Hello Everyone!
Just curious....... what did Amar Bose (is he the famous Dr. Bose?) do to
deserve all this disrespect?
Tony Bentley
Dockside BBS
Radford, Virginia
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO         Ref: DC120605 Date: 08/01/96
From: MICHAEL SUHM                                          Time: 02:10am
\/To: TONY BENTLEY                                        (Read 4 times)
Subj: R: BOSE

TB>Hello Everyone!
TB>Just curious....... what did Amar Bose (is he the famous Dr. Bose?) do t
TB>deserve all this disrespect?
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Hello Tony,
  In my personal opinion, the concepts and ideas are very good
and in some cases ahead of their time, but....
When it comes to actual production, Bose tends to cut corners and
skimp almost anywhere that it can.  They use very substandard
materials and drivers.
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Mike
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO         Ref: DC100006 Date: 07/31/96
From: STEVE MCTAGUE                                         Time: 06:48pm
\/To: BONNIE GOODWIN                                      (Read 4 times)
Subj: Stereo! dub & clone?

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 BG> A message about something other than Car Stereo!
 
Agreed!  Coming from a long time lurker for home stereo,
the only thing more depressing than seeing nothing but
car stereo threads is watching all the flames going back
and forth.  And before I get flamed, let me just say I'm
not interested in car stereo, but understand enthusists
could share the same goal.  But watching the flames going
back and forth, its obvious to me that the two parties
can't play nicely together.
 BG> Up to a point..16 bits is what consumer audio was designed for, which
 BG> for the majority is sufficient allowing 96dB of dynamic range. To
 BG> some, this seems "grainy" and not sufficient resolution, one of the
 BG> reasons why 20 bits is used in HDCD (High Definition CD) mastering that
 BG> many studios are now making their CDs that are sent to the pressing
 BG> plants. Studio digital stuff goes from 16-32 bits internally
 BG> (especially doing number crunching for signal processing).
 BG> But that is only a part of the whole thing.. Additionally, the
 BG> sampling frequency can be a key factor to the quality level. CDs use
 BG> 44.1kHz samples per second. Studios use at least 48kHz, and some go as
 BG> high as 96kHz. Usuable frequency response is subject to the Nyquist
 BG> Theorem, which gives that at .47 of the sample rate. But on to the
I'm a believer that bits is bits, but the a-to-d and d-to-a
conversion process is what makes the difference.  I also
believe the downstream sound can't ever be as good as the
original, so is this the biggest reasoning for having the
highest available sampling rate in the studio?  For when
higher resolution consumer medias become available?  Or
do us consumers really benefit when something mastered at
a higher sampling rate gets mixed down to 16bits?
I can understand playing games and compressing extra data
in the bitstream and decoding it (ala HDCD), and I guess
SBM just plays with the existing bits to make us think we
hear more (making it sound _better_ instead of accurate
maybe?).
I've got a few conventional CDs (no SBM, no HDCD) that
really sound outstanding.  Then again, I've got the SBM
remaster of Miles Davis' 1959 _Kind of Blue_, and it
sounds better than many contemporary recordings (minus
some tape hiss, of course).  I dunno, just curious to
hear some insight of how 16bit media benefits from the
studios higher resolution.
 BG> They already have, with many studios offering a package of 10 CDs for
 BG> under $200. Expect the prices to drop even lower to where almost
 BG> everyone can afford their own burner very soon.
Can't wait!  I love mixing car tapes to get rid of the
filler they pack on CDs.  What I'd REALLY like is cutting
my own CD at the record store.  
... Support your local medical examiner: die strangely.
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