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to: CAMERON HALL
from: DAVID CHESSLER
date: 1997-11-01 14:27:00
subject: RE: TIME CHANGE

On 30 Oct 97, 12:44am, Cameron Hall wrote to Bill White
on the subject of "Re: Time Change":
 BW>>      Sounds like a column by Larry Thompson in The
 BW>> Miami Herald many years ago.  He said he set the clocks
 BW>> back.  So did his wife.  So did his kid.  Sunday
 BW>> morning was VERY confused.
>     Those in the Win95 echo are saying, turn it off.  That's not a proper
>     solution.  It should have been properly tested to start with.
It works fine if you come to it in the morning. The problem is
caused by Win95 doing this *every time* it comes to 2 AM, and if
you set the clock back *every time* at 2 am, this can happen
indefinitely. When I clicked OK, it was about noon on Sunday, and
so it didn't go back to 2 AM Sunday, and so there was no problem.
 BW>>      No comment on using DOS WordPerfect and Windoze
 BW>> anything - I refuse to try!  I had a HP682C and now an
>     Many DOS programs work flawlessly under Win95.  What WP DOS 6.0 was
>     doing was taking forever to print, or mouse movement seemed as if 
>     there was a long chain of submarine officers passing on each mouse 
>     movement. I've never seen anything like it.  Regardless of what 
>     amount of XMS/EMS/DPMI memory amounts specified, it ran frame by 
>     frame...  Very strange.  The mouse in Bluewave, Silver Xpress, 
>     QuickBBS setup, Febbs, Newsworthy, TheDraw, etc all are 
>     instantaneous.  I dunno... :) 
No problem with the Mouse in 5.1+ under Win95
 BW>>      My most recent "problem" was a table: 2 columns by
 BW>> 4 rows.  I had joined A3 and A4 and placed a graphic at
 BW>> the top of A3.  When printed, the graphic was at the
 BW>> top of A4 (i.e., the center of the joined cells).  I
 BW>> went around in circles with this.  Finally, I looked at
 BW>> it in PAGE mode and it showed the graphic where it was
 BW>> printed.  And it refused to go where I wanted it.  I
 BW>> finally split the 2 cells apart again and put the
 BW>> graphic where it belonged!  (There were no table lines,
 BW>> anyway.)
>     At least the Page Preview worked correctly.   Did you do a 
>     reveal codes?  I've found that hidden text font changes even when no 
>     text with the larger scaled font is typed, often can create very 
>     strange formatting problems you'd never expect to occur....   Just a 
>     thought... 
On problems like this, absolute positioning of the graphic works
fine. I've used that to put graphics into margins and other
places on the page. Set the graphic so text does *not* wrap
around it, and then manage the wraps manually.
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT  Ref: EF4P3346 Date: 11/04/97
From: STEVE SHATTUCK                                        Time: 08:55pm
\/To: DAVID CHESSLER                                      (Read 4 times)
Subj: R: RE: TIME CHANGE

When David enlightened Auke Reitsma about RE: TIME CHANGE

DC>WP 8 is primarily a bug fix. It loads faster and seems to
DC>work better in several respects. Few important new features (but
DC>there have been few important new features since 4.2 IMnotsoHO).

Anyone that thinks 8.0 is essentially a bug-fix of 7.0, probably has 
NEVER seen the program.  In fact it has so many changes, I DON'T CARE 
FOR MANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.  AND, if you believe the same is true of 
all versions since 4.2, you probably don't need a wordprocessing package 
at all.  I can count over 100 changes in 8.0 over 7.0, and 1000's over 
4.3.

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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT  Ref: EF300011 Date: 11/01/97
From: LES LEMKE                                             Time: 07:34am
\/To: PHIL HEBERER                                        (Read 4 times)
Subj: Code stripper for WordPerfect doc (text)07:34:1211/01/97

Hi'ya Phil,
Phil Heberer wrote in a message to Les Lemke:
PH> Hello Les,
PH> On (26 Oct 97) Les Lemke wrote to All...
 LL> I don't know why the site at which I was at didn't make the
 LL> files available in dos text (or ascii text) file format for
 LL> there are a lot of people who don't have the WordPerfect program.
PH> While you might not have WP 6.1, the Acrobat Reader for .PDF
PH> files is freely available and allows you to read (or print)
PH> the files as they originally looked. Get the reader at
PH> Adobe's WWW site at
PH> http://www.adobe.com.
yeah...I got the PDF reader.
 LL> In any event, if anyone knows of any BBS's or Interent web sites
 LL> which have utilities which will convert WordPerfect saved files
 LL> to dos or ascii text file format I'd appreciate it if they would
 LL> let me know where these sites are located at.
PH> I'm afraid I know of no such animal, but could see where it
PH> might be handy sometimes. Fortunately I either have or at
PH> least have access to about any version of WP I might need.
PH> 
PH> Cheers,
PH> Phil
Thanks for the reply, Phil.
  Les
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