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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Karl Uppiano
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:34:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: George Martin's influence on the Beatles' music.
To:

"Kevin Wayne"  wrote in message
news:_5YHe.3315$Q75.664472{at}newshog.newsread.com...
> On 8/1/05 5:19 PM, blackburst{at}aol.com wrote:
>> Clifford Golson wrote:
>>
>>>[Relationship between Beatles' ideas and Martin's production]
>>
>> There was a curious synergy there. The Beatles were unusually
talented>> to begin with, but Martin intitally was the teacher who
helped polish>> the rawness of that talent. But in later years, the
Beatles became the>> "teachers", in a way, and prevailed
upon Martin to push the traditional>> envelope in new ways. Martin
thought the "cello groaning down to the>> seventh" in the
second bridge of "Yesterday" was wrong, but he allowed>>
it, and he later came to see its genius and wished he had thought of it>
> himself.
>
> I think "curious synergy" is a good description. It would be
interesting > to know what other groups GM produced and what effect he
had on their > sound. Certainly he gave some structure to the Beatles'
more amorphous > ideas ("10,000 Tibetan monks"), and even if
the result wasn't what the > songwriter envisioned at first, at least
something concrete got recorded > onto the tapes.

GM produced the soft rock trio "America" (Horse With No Name, Ventura
Highway, etc.). They were tolerable, but certainly nowhere near as
interesting as the Beatles.

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"Nowhere as interesting as the Beatles" - yes - but more than
"tolerable."  In their heydey they had great melodic and lyrical
composition.  Martin's style was certainly highly compatable with their
"Holiday" album which launched 'Tin Man' and 'Lonely People'  Tracks
like 'Miniature' 'Another Try' and 'Mad Dog' had those period qualities
that Martin also enjoyed on McCartney's "father Jim" influenced tracks
like 'When I'm 64' Your Mother Should Know' 'Honey Pie' et al....
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