PL>> I agree that the idea of changing portions of policy should be made
 PL>> easier,  but not *THAT* easy.

 DS>   There were also those who felt that the numbers were
 DS> too high, i.e.
 DS>   that quorum could not be achieved without herculean
 DS> effort.  I don't
 DS>   know how many of the RC's, NC's or sysops in the
 DS> nodelist actually
 DS>   exist as active members of fidonet, but I know that
 DS> many of them do
 DS>   not.   Voter participation in fidonet elections is
 DS> often at the 10%
 DS>   level or lower, although I have heard of a few
 DS> elections with
 DS>   participation as high as 25%.

Then trim the nodelist, and find out what we really have. Netmail is the
lifeblood of FidoNet... if no results are achieved by netmailing where
needs to be, with a notice that iw ill happen, cut their listing, then see
if they respond quickly or not.

If FidoNet cannot keep track of who is here or not, then it isn't a network
at all... just a bunch of "broken links" in a nodelist that
doesn't correctly show the participating nodes, or *C's.

Clean the house up first, then figure out how to renovate it, as piles of
trash in front of the obvious repairs needed, make the needed repairs
unseen until the trash is removed.

I say take 6 weeks or so to contact who needs to be contacted...
nonrespondants get removed.  If they don't cry within a month after that,
we know they don't exist. Then, and only THEN should we proceed with a
policy change, and the standards of previous years held, as we will know
who is here or not.

It's been two years (I've heard it said) since this action first started...
what is another month or two going to make a difference in it?

If we are doing something that is to make a difference, then do it right,
and don't half ass it.  It has finally caught the attention of the IC
enough to move on it, so make sure it is right... lest the concern comes up
later, of those -assumed- not to be active, but are, that they were never
properly notified on it, and that they don;t abide by it. According to the
low numbers required in the draft, they would quickly become a majority,
and overide any vote ever taken if the results were to be impossed on them.

Phil

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