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echo: locuser
to: Bob Lawrence
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-05-29 17:35:16
subject: USR 28.8 Modems

RS> Thats not true actually, the murder rate has been STATIC for
RS> well over fifty years, in fact if anything its dropped a little.

BG> I know that, and I'm not actually talking about murder at all

BL>  Rod always asserts a STATIC murder rate, but it isn't so. Here
BL> are the figures from Australian Yearbooks: 1968, '75, '85, '92.

BL>   Year  Homicides  Rape  Population   Rate/M
BL>   64     270       260     10.5M      25.7
BL>   72     400       600     13.0M      30.8
BL>   82     700      1300     15.0M      46.7
BL>   90     960      2100     17.0M      56.5

BL> Where is Rod's STATIC rate?

Something seriously fucked about your figures Bob, presumably
mangling murder and homicide. 91 was a total of 354 murders
for example. Also doesnt fit with this data

                     CRIMES PER 100,000 POPULATION
                                                     American  American
          Britain   France  Germany  Italy  U.S.A.   Whites    Blacks
          -------   ------  -------  -----  ------   ------    ------
Murder      7.4      4.6      4.2     6.0     9.3      5.1       43.4

Source: _Uniform Crime Reports_ for U.S. data, _The Economist_ for
        European data.  European data for 1990; American data for 1992.

I've got some tables from the NSW Bureau of Crime Stats
around somewhere too, in printed form. I'll dig them out.
Those DO show our static rate for 50 years.

BL> The murder rate has doubled in the last 30 years, steadily,
BL> year-by-year. As usual, Rod is all shit whenever he says
BL> something that can be checked. All you need is a yearbook.

As usual, fuckwit Bob mangles murder and homicide.

BL> Anyone with half a brain and a few years on the clock knows
BL> Australia is a much more violent place than it used to be...
BL> and the figures confirm it.

Odd that the official crime stats operations say the reverse Bob.

BL> Especially rape!

Soorree, that one is completely fucked by the reporting rate. Death isnt.
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