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echo: locuser
to: Bill Grimsley
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-06-01 16:20:20
subject: USR 28.8 Modems

BL>   Year  Homicides  Rape  Population   Rate/M
BL>   64     270       260     10.5M      25.7
BL>   72     400       600     13.0M      30.8
BL>   82     700      1300     15.0M      46.7
BL>   90     960      2100     17.0M      56.5

BL> Where is Rod's STATIC rate?

RS> Something seriously fucked about your figures
RS> Bob, presumably mangling murder and homicide.

BG> Surely that's just semantics.

Its not actually, there is a massive difference in the stats.

BG> What IS the difference between murder and homicide anyway?

I've quoted the detail from the NSW BCSAR in one to
Bob. And some real stats too. How surprising that it
exposes poor senile old Bob for the wanker he is. Again.

Neil dug up some ABS figures in his local library which produced a 2/100K
rate which matches mine and that was for the last 7 years he said, so there
is something drastically fucked about Bobs stats, particularly when the NSW
BCSAR and the federal one whose name escapes me for the moment, Bureau of
Crime Stats or something, have BOTH been saying for quite a few years that
the murder rate has been static for fifty years and the federal one even did
a special research project on child murder alone in the last year or so and
found precisely the same thing.

Presumably the Year Book figures are just fucked, not murder at all.
Or Bob has actually deliberately faked them, nothing would surprise
me now after the pathetic spectacle he made on the teletext flicker.

BG> The degree of intent perhaps?  Beats me.

Yeah, it excludes stuff like drunk driving killing people etc.
Thats nothing like murder in the sense of premeditated murder.

BG> So if I'm confronted by a burglar who claims not to be a murderer,
BG> but a homicidal maniac, I'm supposed to feel much more secure?  ROFL!

In fact that alone has been thoroughly analysed too, the rate of the
house occupant ending up dead due to a burglar etc hasnt changed much
either tho there has been some increase with what appear to be the asian
druggys doing home invasions of other asians to grab the money held there,
normally deliberately choosing to do that when the occupants are there.
@EOT:

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