BL> Rod always asserts a STATIC murder rate, but it isn't so. Here
BL> are the figures from Australian Yearbooks: 1968, '75, '85, '92.

BL>   Year  Homicides  Rape  Population   Rate/M
BL>   64     270       260     10.5M      25.7
BL>   72     400       600     13.0M      30.8
BL>   82     700      1300     15.0M      46.7
BL>   90     960      2100     17.0M      56.5

BG> Fuck me dead, are you quite sure about those figures?

BL> I just took them out of the Year Books under "Law
BL> and Order" and picked the years that showed the trend.

Yeah, typical Bob Laurence wanking with his calculator.

There is something grossly fucked with the figures he quotes. Presumably
deliberately faked in a classic example of how pathetically senile some people
can be. Insanely giggling while faking presumably. Poor pathetic old Bob.

BL> It goes up and down a bit.

Sure it does Bob.

BL> The 1990 population figure was extrapolated, but
BL> the rest came out of the Year Books. I collect them...

And fake the quotes from them too. Rather pathetic really.

BL> I have this same argument every time Rod makes his assertion.

Pity that its not me that makes the assertion dorko, its the
crime stats operations at the state and federal level. They know
just a tad more about if than the senile old fart of Concord.

Lets have a look at some REAL figures shall we,
not massaged by a senile wanker. These are from

        NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research
        Crime and Justice Bulletin  # 21  June 94

Figure 1 shows 'Number of Homicide Incidents per 100K from 1968-92' for
NSW. That shows a STATIC rate of homicide, varying between a low of 1.4
in 68 and both 88 and 92, and a high of 2.25 in 73 and the next highest
2 in 90. Its a graph, not a table. These match with those that Neil
quoted for the last 7 years and dont get within a bulls roar of Bobs
5.6 which was in fact just 2 for 1990. Something grossly fucked somewhere
in Bobs wanking, if he didnt actually just invent the number for 1990.

I'll take the NSW BCSAR on crime stats over the Year Book any day thanks.

It also defines homicides as

    unlawful killings known to the police, excluding those caused by motor
    vehicle accidents. Thus it includes deaths for which charges of murder,
    conspiracy to murder, manslaughter or infanticide were laid (irrespective
    of the court outcome of such charges), as well as murders in which the
    alleged offender committed suicide, and unsolved murders.

Presumably most of the discrepancy with Bobs figures if he didnt just make them
up is that they include stuff like car accidents. Soorree, that aint murder.

It also says on page 1

    There were 2321 homicide incidents, involving 2544 victims,
    between 1968 and 1992 in NSW. Over this period there was no
    significant upward or downward trend in the homicide rate.

I think its the federal one what says it specifically about 50 years.

BL> The really big increase is in theft. From '72-'82: B&E 110K to 210K,
BL> car theft 40K-80K, forgery 30K-70K (not corrected for population).
BL> Basically, everything doubles every 10 years. Rod is right that the
BL> lowest increase is murder, which doubles in 25 years.

Pity it doesnt when you dont fake the figures.

BL> Our perception that Australia is less safe than it used to be is correct.

Fraid not. AND the theft and car theft rates dropped
somewhat thru the recession too. Whatever the loons who
claim that people out of work would get up to claim.
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