1237ca480fe3
tech



Hello Roy - 

--8<--cut 

RJT>> I tried to install a cdrom that came with a book I
RJT>> recently acquired, and it insisted on upgrading the IE on
RJT>> my 98 box from 4 (?) to 5.something (5.5?). And the book
RJT>> is a few years old, copyright 2000 I think. I'm not sure
RJT>> what this upgrade gives you... 

CA>> There were many problems with IEx v4 but I don't recall
CA>> specifics. 

RJT> The only thing I ever used it for was to view web pages on
RJT> the primary linux box that I'd put together, and it never
RJT> showed me any problems there. 

I have the impression that the webpages you refer to were
written by you. What I am referring to is on the WWW where
there is pressure to add razzle-dazzle and whatnot. The
problems with v4 were either non-standard displays of HTML or
security issues. 

CA>> Version 5 wasn't so hot but v5.5 is OK AFAIK. I upgraded
CA>> to version 6 just for the heck of it and v6 seems OK to me. 

RJT> I started messing with the book, and put it aside to get
RJT> back to later, since I've got a bunch of other stuff going
RJT> on at this point in time. Nor have I been back on that
RJT> machine. But after I got the web working my one grandkid
RJT> was on there and seems not to have encountered any
RJT> problems with it. 

Again, security issues are not obvious nor are non-standard
displays of HTML unless you compare them to other browsers
displaying the same pages. 

RJT>> I'm not sure that frames is something I see any great
RJT>> advantage to (yet?) and so far I've hit a few situations
RJT>> where something has tried javascript on my setup and it
RJT>> pops up and empty window and a notification box
RJT>> complaining that it's not supported. I click on OK and
RJT>> close the extra window, and things go on from there so
RJT>> I'm not real sure what I'm missing, if anything. 

CA>> Some websites use frames but will autodetect if you can't
CA>> or offer a version of the page without frames. Others just
CA>> use frames and if you can't you don't see all of the page
CA>> display. :-\ 

RJT> Some web authors take a bit more trouble than others, I
RJT> guess. 

It's time consuming to add razzle dazzle but also time
consuming to verify that a page is 'anybrowser friendly' and
still find a way to make the pages look good. 

RJT>> It may be that it's in there someplace and I just haven't
RJT>> enabled it, I don't know. It's not exactly been a real
RJT>> high priority with me. 

CA>> Once you are on the WWW it will change your perspective.
CA>> :-) 

RJT> Maybe. I haven't gotten on since the other day, but I can
RJT> see how easy it would be to just keep following links... 

Biggest problem there is forgetting to save the more
interesting ones. People _think_ 100% of all webpages can be
located using a search engine but that's not true. 

CA>> --8<--cut 

RJT>> That doesn't say much, depending on whether it also
RJT>> requires libraries and such stuff... 

CA>> I would think DILLO would require assistance from some
CA>> libraries, yes. 

CA>> --8<--cut 

CA>>> The proverbial "bottom line" is that they want paychecks
CA>>> before  they go any further with Dillo? 

RJT>> Well, you gotta eat, I guess, and pay rent and such
RJT>> stuff... 

RJT>> If I can find somebody to pay _me_ for doing stuff I like
RJT>> to do, that'd be seriously nifty. Nothing wrong with
RJT>> that. And the 'net sure would tend to make that kind of
RJT>> thing easier than it would be otherwise. 

CA>> My point is that DILLO is unfinished and will remain that
CA>> way for some time (few ever find a sponsor$$). 

RJT> Ah. Well, sometimes these things get set down, and
RJT> somebody else will come along and fiddle with it some
RJT> more, and so forth. Depending on what it is. I personally
RJT> don't see the need for another browser, but I suspect that
RJT> there's something there I'm not considering, and if it's
RJT> that worthwhile then the likelihood that somebody _will_
RJT> pick it up increases. 

There is no need for another browser. It's an attempt by some
young programmers to create a niche for themselves in the
embedded market. 

>
>        ,                          ,
>      o/      Charles.Angelich      \o       ,
>       __o/
>     / >          USA, MI           < \   __\__
 

___ * ATP/16bit 2.31 * 
... DOS the Ghost in the Machine! http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/

--- Maximus/2 3.01