EH>>> Crime is a mindset.

 BK>>  Nice cover. Rationalization is whitewash for the soul. You have
 BK>>  zero qualification to make that claim.

 EH> You have no qualification to make that judgment.

 Yeah, since I know you are wrong, I do. That plus I get expert
 advisories on that subject.

 EH>>> There are truly poor people who would never commit crime.

 BK>>  I doubt there is anyone on earth who would never commit a crime.

 EH> You have no evidence to back up such a cynical position.

 That is why I said "I doubt" instead of "it's a fact that".
 It is my opinion from 6 decades observing life.

 EH>>> Poverty does not remove a person's knowledge of right and
 EH>>> wrong.

 BK>>  Poverty does remove the incentive to live according to the
 BK>>  rules.

 EH> No it does not.

 Yes it does.

 BK>>  A man who has followed the rules, done what he's supposed
 BK>>  to for success in this society, and finds himself unable to earn
 BK>>  a living because your white run Fed and Federal Govt decides to
 BK>>  put him out of work to fight inflation quickly loses any
 BK>>  confidence this society will ever give him a chance.

 EH> Good grief, you have no clue. Society doesn't "give"
 EH> anything. It's up to the individual to overcome the
 EH> obstacles before them. Those who give up fail. Those who
 EH> keep on trying regardless of setbacks succeed.

 Only if you live forever, so you can keep trying forever.

 BK>>>>>>  Yet aprox 33% of those arrested for serious
crimes are black,
 BK>>>>>>  according to the FBI, and over 50% of those in
prison are black.

 BK>>>>  I have looked into this far deeper than you have, I know the
 BK>>>>  excuse you tried to pass off.

 EH>>> Then you should also know that the majority of those blacks
 EH>>> in prison perpetrated their crime on other blacks. Other
 EH>>> blacks who are also poor.

 BK>>  Non sequitur.

 EH> You still don't know what a non-sequitur is.

 If you think your comment was germane to the discussion then you
 do not know what a non sequitur is.

 BK>>  Most whites commit crimes against other whites.

 EH> Not if we are to believe you.

 Bull shit.

 BK>>  Yet they don't go to prison at twice the rate they commit
 BK>>  crimes.

 EH> Blacks don't go to prison at twice the rate they commit
 EH> crimes, either. For that to happen, the police would have
 EH> to be pulling law abiding citizens off the street and
 EH> throwing them into prison without trial.

 Your lack of logic is amazing.

 Over 50% of people in prison are black. Less than 25% of people
 who commit crimes of violence are black.

 BK>>  That does not change the fact that blacks do go to prison at
 BK>>  twice their rate of criminal activity compared to whites.

 EH> Total nonsense. You don't even know how to read the
 EH> statistics you hold so dear.

 If you had any idea about what you are saying you would have
 said something meaningful.

 EH>>>>> Again, you can't just look at raw statistics and make a
 EH>>>>> case.

 BK>>>>  If you don't look at raw statistics you are just looking at what
 BK>>>>  someone else has filtered for you. So, you like others to do
 BK>>>>  your thinking for you?

 EH>>> Raw statistics are meaningless.

 BK>>  If they were no one would collect raw statistics.

 EH> They don't collect them just to use on their own, ...

 You said they were meaningless... idiot.

 BK>> These are just statistics, not really raw, and they show how wrong you
 BK>> are. That's why you want to deny their relevance.

 EH> You aren't smart enough to read the stats, let alone interpret them.

 If you were you would have done so and given your conclusions,
 instead of resorting to personal attacks.

 BK>>>>  I have been looking at this for a very long time. I have looked
 BK>>>>  at FBI and DOJ studies. I have compared the rates. I am way
 BK>>>>  ahead of you on this.

 EH>>> You have your own agenda on this.

 BK>>  My agenda is to make this a better country.

 EH> Bull.

 You are full of that alrighty.

 BK>>  What's yours? To gather all you can for yourself and the hell with the
 rest of the country?

 EH> You know nothing about me. Absolutely nothing.

 I know you lie a lot, and resort to personal attacks when you
 have nothing meaningful to say.

 EH>>> You think of yourself as
 EH>>> a savior of the poor blacks. You are more racist than
 EH>>> anyone I've encountered.

 BK>>  You are the true racist.

 EH> You can say that as many times as you want and it is still
 EH> untrue.

 You can resort to racist accusations when you are pushed into a
 corner, but it is quite obvious what you are doing.

 BK>>  You think anyone who says something
 BK>>  against blacks is just speaking the truth, and anyone who says
 BK>>  anything in favor of blacks is a racist.

 EH> Huh? Again, did you proofread that before you posted?

 Yes.

 BK>>>>>>  Yes, black people do face obstacles greater
than whites face.

 EH>>>>> And you like it that way.

 BK>>>>  You are the one who wants to keep it that way. Your lies reveal
 BK>>>>  your true motives.

 EH>>> Why would I want to keep it that way?

 BK>>  Because you are a racist.

 EH> One more time. You can say that a many times and as loud as
 EH> you want and it is still untrue.

 Yet you are the one who insists that defending blacks against
 your accusations is racist. Oh, you mean anti-white racism, as
 you are so determined that whites are superior.

 EH>>> I don't have any axes to grind on this issue.

 BK>>  Yes you do. You need someone to feel superior to.

 EH> You are the one with the need for a feeling of superiority.

 I get enough of that feeling superior to you.

 EH> I have no trouble with others getting ahead legally. I

 Then why do you refuse to recognize the obstacles they face? Oh,
 I see, you have no problem if they do, as long as not too many
 of them do.

 EH> don't judge people by their skin color and I never have. I
 EH> have no need to feel superior. That is not what Jesus would
 EH> do.

 I know Jesus... I follow Jesus, or at least try to... You are no
 Jesus.

 Nor would Jesus resort to racist accusations when faced with a
 difficult arguement.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

... Race is an idea whose time has passed. 
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