...

 EH>>> People like me? How on earth do you get the idea I am in
 EH>>> any position to put barriers in anyone's path to success?

 BK>>  You do your share. You may just put one brick in the wall, but
 BK>>  you do that much.

 EH> I do? Explain how I would do that.

 For one thing, by justifying the above rewards for effort and
 achievement.

 BK>>>>  If you think there are no barriers then you are truly as dense
 BK>>>>  as they come. Or just totally indifferent to humanity.

 EH>>> I never said there were no barriers. I gave you examples of
 EH>>> two who succeeded regardless of barriers. Tim Richardson
 EH>>> gave several more.

 BK>>  Wow! Two!

 EH> There are millions more.

 And still they are rewarded less than whites who achieve no
 more.

 BK>>  Lots of whites fail also.

 EH> Quite true.

 BK>>  That doesn't change the fact that blacks have to climb further to reach
 EH> the same height.

 EH> And you want it that way so you can feel superior and act
 EH> like you care.

 You resort to personal attacks when you have no real response.

 BK>>>>  What is truly incredible, and contemptable, is that you take
 BK>>>>  Elder's story as one more chance to demean Obama's achievement.

 EH>>> I didn't demean anyone's achievement, ...

 BK>>  Yes, you did, with every word you said belittling and demeaning
 BK>>  black people, moron.

 EH> Where did I do that? ...

 At every point where you claimed blacks are not trying and
 giving up, when the comment I posted clearly applied to blacks
 who did not give up, who got the education, yet were rewarded
 less than whites who did the same. Idiot.

 BK>>>>  And as contemptable, is that Elders seems to have meant it that
 BK>>>>  way.

 EH>>> You read a lot into things that just isn't there.

 BK>>  You fail to see what is there.

 EH> I read it word for word, twice, before I posted it. I know
 EH> what Larry Elder was saying. You think your interpretation
 EH> is what Larry really meant.

 I think that is what he said. What he meant to say is anybody's
 guess.

 EH>>> You are so filled with hatred that you will say anything to
 EH>>> attack people you know nothing about.

 BK>>  I know a lot about you, and what I know is, you are filled with
 BK>>  contempt for black people. That and totally ignorant of what
 BK>>  this society holds up to stop them.

 EH> You don't know a thing about me. You are making things up.
 EH> IOW, you are lying about me.

 Nah...that's your field.

 EH> Put up or shut up, ...

 Explain this, moron.

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 The median salary for a black person with a high school diploma
 is equal that that of a white high school dropout. The median
 income for a black bachelor's degree holder equals that for a
 white high school graduate. For a black master's degree holder
 the median income is equal to that of a white bachelor's degree
 holder. It's only at the PHD level that the salaries equalize.

 The unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites.

 The infant mortality rate for blacks is twice that for whites.

 Above from the statistical abstract of the US.

 Aprox 23% of crimes of violence in this country are committed by
 blacks, according to the DOJ's report Criminal Victimization in
 the United States.

 Yet aprox 33% of those arrested for serious crimes are black,
 according to the FBI, and over 50% of those in prison are black.

 Yes, black people do face obstacles greater than whites face.
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BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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