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echo: locsysop
to: Paul Edwards
from: Bill Grimsley
date: 1996-02-15 07:09:40
subject: buggy products

Paul, at 08:12 on Feb 14 1996, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

BG> The modem won't answer, as the mailer can't see a RING response in 
BG> order to send an ATA (which, oddly enough WOULD then auto-baud the port 
BG> rate anyway).  With the right mailer init, this problem would NEVER occur, 

PE> ATZ *IS* *A* "right" mailer init.

"With the right mailer init to suit the brand of modem in use", you goose.

BG> but it does show how important it is to know that the USRs work differently 
BG> to Rockwells in this regard.

PE> Just as important as it is to know that the Spirit does double
PE> sending when talking to a Rockwell-based modem.

Oh bullshit Paul, now you're just being silly again.  As it's apparent that
only USR modems save of the baud rate to NVRAM, it follows that you need to
consider that when using the bloody thing.  If you can't work that out for
yourself, it's your problem, not mine.

BG> I'm not forcing MNP here, so Paul has apparently been playing around with 
BG> his Courier's S27 register,

db> Yes, he has been playing around .. 

BG> Correct, and he's since admitted as much anyway.

PE> "Admit" is the wrong word. 

Nope, I asked, you admitted it.  That was BEFORE you announced it publicly
(or due to email lag, before I read your "announcement").

PE> I ANNOUNCED it.  I also announced when I stopped it too.

That was AFTER I'd asked if you were screwing around with S27.

BG> Why is Paul's board the only one to which I occasionally have problems 
BG> connecting, regardless of the type of modem in use at his end?  

PE> What's this "occasional problems connecting"?  You haven't mentioned
PE> that before.  Want to elaborate?  Besides the one where I had
PE> S27=48 anyway. 

As many as 20% of my calls to your board don't even ring at your end, but I
haven't bothered mentioning it because it ain't your problem.  Seems that
one of the southern exchanges is a bit slow on the uptake, and accepts the
actual number BEFORE it sends dialtone, resulting in a non-connect.  I
could fix it here by extending the 2 second delay register, but it doesn't
bother me too much, as I don't get charged for that call anyway.

BG> Quite so, although S27 is not a register to be altered willy-nilly, as it's 
BG> mainly used for incompatibility problems, and while it might fix poor 
BG> connects to one type of modem, it could just as easily screw up previously 
BG> good connects with others.

PE> Pity you never responded to Russell in AUST_MODEMS then, detailing
PE> why I should NOT set S27 as suggested by him.

Why bother, you don't take my advice anyway.  You didn't even want the
on-line manual which has a HELL of a lot more data than the printed
version...

Regards, Bill

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